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@slayer wrote:

actually to be pedantic- America has been around longer than any religion and indeed populated longer than any religion…we just didnt call it America

I, like the thread, was referring to modern day

Actually thats not being pedantic either as america and the US ARE both Modern terms, and there were infact no “americans” before there was an america for them to exist in and the concept and actuality of both didnt exist before they were resettled by the people who named them

Its actually called sidestepping the point by eroneous interjection of irrelevance if you want an actual descriptive term for a literary action, pedantry is the interjection of fact and is something totally different

Thats because a “land mass” obviously CANT protest, march, becrie for deaths, quote holy scripture or “murder” people as its inate rather than conscious. So the “confusion” you try to clear up wasnt there to begin with as the threads confines and logical confines are clearly to do with the actions of collections of people with collective and multiple ideologies and with the interjection of the US as a comparative a suggested overlap and connection all of which a land mass is incapable of exhibiting

So in effect you are the only one who had that confusion it seems and were actually clearing it up in your own mind by overt third person interaction at best, or at worst were subtly trying to dodge responding to the quite obvious flaw in your initial claim that islam was mimmicking a nation, people and ideology that didnt actually form for several thousand years AFTER islam had been forcibly spreading its war mongering hate filled rhetoric around the world

Basically wanting to make “A” response, but wanting to make any response except a valid one, as the only valid one sticking within the obvious and clear confines of the topic ACTUALLY being discussed (hint, which ISNT the ideologies of inanimate land masses btw) would be to concede that the US couldnt indeed have copied islam as you inferred as there wasnt a US for a very very long time after the muslims were doing it

Dont feel bad tho, its a surprisingly common practise to try and sidestep an actual response to whats been written by either interjecting eroneous irrelevance, diverting a topic, claiming confusion or even sinking to verbal attacks on the poster to try and avoid having to respond sensibly and in context to a point someone doesnt have a contextual logical response to. Seems a hell of a lot of people would rather chew their own arms off than admit being wrong, making a mistake or simply conceeding a point on places like this

Usually I cant be arsed to highlight it as its nothing more than humourous, but I’m bored :lol:

So the FACT remains that before there was either an america or a US the muslims had been at it for thousands of years, so its more likely the americans copied the muslims seeing as they were doing it WAAAAAAAAY before america existed as america is a people, an ideology and a nation, the american land mass or continent however had been around for a long time, but nobody was talking geology were they (thats pedantry FYI :wink: )

UNLESS of course when you said the US had copied islam in trying peaceful means to impose their will and it failed they then resort to violent means you WERE infact referring to the actual continental US land mass of course rather than the US as a cognitive entity made up of millions of people

But as land masses are incapable of reasoned and logical progression or actions I think we can safely assume you werent eh? Coz that WOULD have been silly wouldnt it? :wink:

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I’ve heard the Mcanns have set up a fund for the bear and will be managing the donations

To increase public awareness of the poor bears plight they will be using the fund to jet to all the holiday destineations they wanted to visit but havent gotten around to yet to do poster campaighs

When asked about what she would do about the teachers plight she said “well I will drink as much of it on the rocks as I can manage, its cruel keeping it locked up in a keg for so long only to then be just as locked up in a bottle”

On managing the fund she said “well obviously we will be trying to get this poor bears case heard the world over, and the timing couldnt have been better anyway as I really needed a holiday and with only two kids left now we had been looking at a different approach this time round”

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Thing is tho slayer you (well we) CANT be “racist” towards white europeans, a racist comment by definition is one that encompasses and includes ALL members of a race, which is sorta why its called “racist” rather than “SOME of themist” you see

same would apply to someone saying “you see that black man over there, well hes a tosser”, NOT racist in the slightest even tho many would use the word to describe the comments and the person who made them

But as immigration treats ALL immigrants of all races, cultures and creeds the same it cant and never will be “racist” to comment on it either positively or negatively

It has to be one of the most commonly innacurately used words in existence, well, perhaps pipped to the post buy the word “equality” obviously

[ubermik]

I’d be extremely wary of a muslim who smoked anyway

He might have bought some cheap explosives and they could be about to explode before he’s even had a chance to press the detonator :wink:

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Whats more amazing is that anyone alive even suspected it wasnt controlled, vetted and less than “real” to begin with

Even the guests run through a brief outline of what the discussion will be before the show and have the option to remove or ammend, research or rehearse before the “real time” discussion begins

Its TV for gods sake, get a grip on reality lol

(PS, eastenders isnt real either :wink: )

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Well ya cant really expect much more from such unevolved savages tho can ya

And why dont they also want the child killed seeing as it was a child who actually named the bear?

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@ugo wrote:

@ubermik wrote:

@ugo wrote:

How sad & immature !

Well yes…….

It is a sad sad story

And he’s only 9 so of course he’s immature….. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Knob !!! Bet you come from somewhere like West Midlands dont ya or close ?

LOL, well firstly as it says that on my profile ANYWAY its hardly a guess now is it?

And secondly, the west midlands are as well packed with humourless self important whingebags as whatever part of the country as youre in I would guess, as well as having just as many people who would find this funny too

Jeez, how self important eh? To think that only what YOU find funny should be laughed at lol

Diddums petal

[ubermik]

@ugo wrote:

How sad & immature !

Well yes…….

It is a sad sad story

And he’s only 9 so of course he’s immature….. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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@cas wrote:

@ubermik wrote:

@cas wrote:

@ubermik wrote:

@cas wrote:

Uber,,,,,,,,the pavement isn’t the place for ‘adult’ cyclists. Iv’e no problem with children cycling on the pavement, it’s far safer for them, but adults are not, and should not, be allowed to ride them on either the pavement or pedestrian walkways, they really are old enough to know better.

Another pet hate of mine is when they cycle, on the pavement, to the pelican crossing, press the button for the lights to change and then cycle across!!! It’s ignorance on a huge scale. :twisted:

I totally disagree

Adult cyclists are on the whole far more likely to manoevre safely around pedestrians than kids anyway for one. Infact with current levels of child behaviour and their near untouchable status in the eyes of the law kids are actually far more likely to hit people just for the heck of it

Also, the moement cyclists start paying road tax, buying insurance and having to pass a test then, and only then SHOULD they belong on the road

As for being “on the path”, they wouldnt be, their cycle paths would be, so if they stay in them and you stay on your pedestrian part of the path whats yer problem?

I wouldn’t have a problem if they were in and STAYED IN!! their cycle paths. As for them being far more likely to ”manoevre safely around pedestrians”,,,,,iv’e yet to see it.

I wouldn’t have had a problem on Tuesday either, had the ‘cyclist’ who almost landed in the buggy containing my freinds little girl apologised,,,,,,he merely gave me a mouthful of abuse like it was my fault for being in his bloody way in the first place!

Well if you didnt see him coming maybe it was your fault, or 50% of it at least, after all cyclists are hardly invisible nor tiny, and the more speed something has the harder minute adjustents to direction become

So for the same reason I wouldnt walk infront of a container lorry and just “expect” them to swerve around me perhaps its time pedestrians also stopped walking around as tho theyre in some hallucinagenic daydream and started to pay attention to their surroundings too for a change

By the same token,,,,,,,i was in the shopping PEDESTRIAN precinct,,,,,so I really shouldn’t have been having to look out for rogue cyclists, because they shouldn’t be riding their cycles through pedestrian precincts in the first place,,,,,,, :twisted:

Well I’m often on the MOTORISTS road and have to avoid daydreaming ditzy pedestrians who just walk out whilst chatting on a mobile or who just arent paying any attention at all, and as I’m driving a car and threrefore already have far more to focus my attention on than a near stationary pedestrian and STILL manage to be aware of my surroundings its hardly like its an unreasonable or impossible expectation for a pedestrian in any setting to be aware of their surroundings really

And just because he SHOULDNT have been there doesnt mean he “couldnt” be there as you found out, so rather than walking around in dipsy lala land where the only cognition is of things that “should” be the case maybe remembering the fact you dont live in cloud cuckoo land but in reality where things other than what “should” be the case ARE the case eh?

After all, a buggy can be just as easily and even more effectively splodged flat by a cripple in a cripple scooter, someone pushing a trolley of goods for a store thats got away from it, someone pushing a shopping trolley, pedestrians running (or as most SEEM to do, just not paying attention to their surroundings either or infact just another ditzy daydreamer ALSO pushing another buggy

After all, its not like you have to be aware and on the look out for each thing individually is it? Just aware full stop.

Infact, re the roadkill person this thread is about (pathkill?) I would bet good money THEY would have been more vigilant, aware and careful had they been on the road rather than the footpath, so had they been equally aware irrespective then they might still be alive today

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@cas wrote:

@ubermik wrote:

@cas wrote:

Uber,,,,,,,,the pavement isn’t the place for ‘adult’ cyclists. Iv’e no problem with children cycling on the pavement, it’s far safer for them, but adults are not, and should not, be allowed to ride them on either the pavement or pedestrian walkways, they really are old enough to know better.

Another pet hate of mine is when they cycle, on the pavement, to the pelican crossing, press the button for the lights to change and then cycle across!!! It’s ignorance on a huge scale. :twisted:

I totally disagree

Adult cyclists are on the whole far more likely to manoevre safely around pedestrians than kids anyway for one. Infact with current levels of child behaviour and their near untouchable status in the eyes of the law kids are actually far more likely to hit people just for the heck of it

Also, the moement cyclists start paying road tax, buying insurance and having to pass a test then, and only then SHOULD they belong on the road

As for being “on the path”, they wouldnt be, their cycle paths would be, so if they stay in them and you stay on your pedestrian part of the path whats yer problem?

I wouldn’t have a problem if they were in and STAYED IN!! their cycle paths. As for them being far more likely to ”manoevre safely around pedestrians”,,,,,iv’e yet to see it.

I wouldn’t have had a problem on Tuesday either, had the ‘cyclist’ who almost landed in the buggy containing my freinds little girl apologised,,,,,,he merely gave me a mouthful of abuse like it was my fault for being in his bloody way in the first place!

Well if you didnt see him coming maybe it was your fault, or 50% of it at least, after all cyclists are hardly invisible nor tiny, and the more speed something has the harder minute adjustents to direction become

So for the same reason I wouldnt walk infront of a container lorry and just “expect” them to swerve around me perhaps its time pedestrians also stopped walking around as tho theyre in some hallucinagenic daydream and started to pay attention to their surroundings too for a change

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