@thenorfolkmafia
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This debate hasn’t evolved at all. We still have an individual using aggressive sexist language to describe women as physically “inferior” to men, applying only his descriptors to reach that conclusion and suggesting only his choice of sport applies, which changed when he realized men do not dominate women in all sport as he originally stated. Finally his conclusion is now exactly the same as was put to him at the start and in which he argued differently. It is totally irrelevant how many sets women play or don’t play while the male rule makers in the game make that decision on their behalf. A pointless debate.
You need a crash course in human biology if you think women can match physical attributes of men in sport. You still can’t name a single sport where women outperform men and are simply embarrassing yourself with no logic to your posts other than the usual rantings of sexism displaying your ignorance in understanding what the word actually means.
Maybe empathy was the wrong choice of word. I was thinking particularly of dressage, women generally tend to dominate that sport, build up better relationships with the horses. The equal pay thing, I get where you’re coming from but if you accept women are weaker and not capable of playing the same amounts of sets, are you not discriminating against them for their physical inability by saying they need to equal men to get the same pay?
Women are capable of playing 5 sets as they can run marathons/ other endurance events so can’t see an issue with it at all , although like I said I think all matches should be over 3 sets…the 5 set matches go on forever. The best argument for equal pay is the training argument which is hard to disagree with but still think both genders should play similar length matches whether that is 3 or 5 sets. I’m referring more to championship rewards for the winner in terms of pay like wimbledon rather than general pay for tournaments where they play the same number of sets . In Wimbledon the prize money for men should be higher as the men are working harder for it- simple as that.
I have no interest in tennis, know nothing of the pay structure so I cant make an informed argument for or against in all fairness. If men are more capable physically, in strength and endurance, and women played the same amounts of sets, would the women not be working harder just to keep up? You could argue women deserve more as they are at a disadvantage because of their gender.
Women aren;t children, to imply they deserve more money as they are overcoming physical disadvantages is ridiculous. If I was running against Usian Bolt I would have to put more effort in to reach the finishing line so by that logic I should get paid more for being less able?
I’m not implying anything, I’m just exploring ideas here. If women are physically unable to compete equally then it makes senses to seperate the tournaments according to gender. I’m struggling to express what I mean here, so forgive me. Men are physically capable of playing five sets, it pushes them to their limits, for women it’s three. Both genders are playing to their limits. In both cases, to win takes skill, determination and dedication within the confines of gender. To say a woman doesn’t deserve the rewards a man does because she isn’t physically capable of matching a mans strength, power and endurance just seems wrong to me.
Women are physically inferior to men but are still capable of playing 5 sets of tennis, let’s not take this to bizarre extremes. Women routinely compete in marathons etc so the 3 set rule is simply an outdated custom which needs to be updated. I’m saying in a specific tournament, if there is no equality in effort there should be no equality in pay. Female actresses work as hard as men , female surgeons , female track and field yet we have this bizarre set up in tennis. I don;t believe for a minute women are physically incapable of playing 5 sets of tennis which means they ” aren’t playing to their limits” so their pay should reflect that.
I cant list them as I have computer problems but we all know what they are.
We’re all waiting for the…. “list”
Maybe empathy was the wrong choice of word. I was thinking particularly of dressage, women generally tend to dominate that sport, build up better relationships with the horses. The equal pay thing, I get where you’re coming from but if you accept women are weaker and not capable of playing the same amounts of sets, are you not discriminating against them for their physical inability by saying they need to equal men to get the same pay?
Women are capable of playing 5 sets as they can run marathons/ other endurance events so can’t see an issue with it at all , although like I said I think all matches should be over 3 sets…the 5 set matches go on forever. The best argument for equal pay is the training argument which is hard to disagree with but still think both genders should play similar length matches whether that is 3 or 5 sets. I’m referring more to championship rewards for the winner in terms of pay like wimbledon rather than general pay for tournaments where they play the same number of sets . In Wimbledon the prize money for men should be higher as the men are working harder for it- simple as that.
I have no interest in tennis, know nothing of the pay structure so I cant make an informed argument for or against in all fairness. If men are more capable physically, in strength and endurance, and women played the same amounts of sets, would the women not be working harder just to keep up? You could argue women deserve more as they are at a disadvantage because of their gender.
Women aren;t children, to imply they deserve more money as they are overcoming physical disadvantages is ridiculous. If I was running against Usian Bolt I would have to put more effort in to reach the finishing line so by that logic I should get paid more for being less able?
I have just read the thread and can say anyone who says women arent as good as men are SEXIST AND RACIST AND IT WONT BE TOLERATED ! WOMEN ARE AS GOOD AS MEN IN ALL SPORTS SO STOP BEING SEXIST MYSOGYNIST AND RACIST !!!!!
lol , list the sports where women are better than men
Maybe empathy was the wrong choice of word. I was thinking particularly of dressage, women generally tend to dominate that sport, build up better relationships with the horses. The equal pay thing, I get where you’re coming from but if you accept women are weaker and not capable of playing the same amounts of sets, are you not discriminating against them for their physical inability by saying they need to equal men to get the same pay?
Women are capable of playing 5 sets as they can run marathons/ other endurance events so can’t see an issue with it at all , although like I said I think all matches should be over 3 sets…the 5 set matches go on forever. The best argument for equal pay is the training argument which is hard to disagree with but still think both genders should play similar length matches whether that is 3 or 5 sets. I’m referring more to championship rewards for the winner in terms of pay like wimbledon rather than general pay for tournaments where they play the same number of sets . In Wimbledon the prize money for men should be higher as the men are working harder for it- simple as that.
http://www.history.com/news/billie-jean-king-wins-the-battle-of-the-sexes-40-years-ago Interestling thread this. Biologically men are physically stronger, faster reactions and so on. They need them, they were the hunters, fighters. I don’t think it’s sexist to say that most men are stronger and faster. There will always be exceptions though.
He was 55 years old tbf
Don’t be ageist. Seriously though, I agree that (generally) women are physically weaker, our brains are wired differently. Should female tennis players ger paid less? No. If you accept the argument women are weaker then they are playing to their limit, are they not? Pay them less and you penalise them for their gender. My thoughts on sport in general, and this is just my opinion, is that men excel in physical sports that require strength and endurance, women in ones that require tactics and empathy.
I think the pay issue I have is the three set rule rather than them being physically weaker.. if they both played the same number of sets I wouldn’t disagree they deserve equal pay.
What I would like to see are calls for ” equality” to stop, as true equality would have men playing women. The two genders are not equal on sporting terms and never will be.
You mention women excel in sports which require empathy which means sharing the feelings of others..I;d love to know what sports involve feeling sorry for/with an opponent – can you give an eg of a sport where empathy is required?
http://www.history.com/news/billie-jean-king-wins-the-battle-of-the-sexes-40-years-ago Interestling thread this. Biologically men are physically stronger, faster reactions and so on. They need them, they were the hunters, fighters. I don’t think it’s sexist to say that most men are stronger and faster. There will always be exceptions though.
He was 55 years old tbf
We’re all still waiting for the evidence of a single sport where women can beat men that involves no machine or animal but as usual you revert back to childish smiley faces and nonsense having lost yet another debate…I’d call that game set and match.
It’s only complete ignorance from someone as intrinsically stupid as you that would revert to ” sexist ” comments when stating every world record for men is faster than women which is a fact. You need to educate yourself on human biology instead of coming out with this diatribe of crap
Wait who typed this to a woman, me, oh wait no it was you. Oh dear. Ta ra.
I don’t crawl to women or treat them any differently to men… maybe you think they are frail creatures we should all pander to online like children but I don’t share that view. Anyone calling a poster sexist because of a point that men are superior to women in sports due to biological differences between the two genders is intrinsically stupid and I stand by my comments.
