@thenorfolkmafia
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A refresher course on basic literacy for the OP would be better advice.
The only spirits involved are in bottles at these silly gatherings. Why do lights have to be dimmed with candles… as though “spirits” suddenly come out in the dark due to not having sun tan lotion for daytime appearances lol. Some naive people about watching too many horror films. I suppose a haunted house with creaking floorboards and lightning creates a better special affect than a ghost appearing in the royal box at Ascot or floating down wembley pitch during a football match… now that really would be a statement of intent but it’s always a dodgy pipe clanking in a deserted house that may or may not be long lost uncle Rupert banging it with his walking stick.
I have no evidence of demons my self….that is why i say apparently because of the many other accounts, stories, explanations and theories that i have read over the years. I am just explaining what a demon is in the way i have interpreted it over the years. Basically…Demons, Ghosts, Poltergeists,Apparitions, spirits are the main things that most people have spoken about through history. Technically Demons , Ghosts Poltergeists and Apparitions are all spirits because they come from the ‘spirit realm’ where ever that is.
People have also talked about wizards, dragons, pixies and chariots dragging the sun across the sky – it doesn’t give them any more credibility. I always find it bizarre these creatures appear in some moonlit windy night where there are few witnesses and the weather conditions make other explanations more likely… you never see one walking down Oxford Street in the middle of the afternoon with numerous witnesses do you. Are these creatures allergic to sunlight/people or just simply old wives tales creating a bit of titillation when a broken twig outside a deserted house could mean anything.
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How many times have you seen what you believe to be your sister and how clearly ?
More times than I can count. But her exact manifestation is inconsistant. Sometimes its just a voice that doesn’t seem to come from any direction, other times I can see her as clearly as any living person. Sometimes she will respond if I talk to her, other times she will ignore me.
When she appears, does she appear around the same age as you now or when she passed away?
I’d also be interested to hear your definition of ” a spirit”
The closest thing I can give to a scientific definition would be electrical activity in the brain. The thing that differentiates a living body from a dead one. Although for my hypothesis to be true there must be something more than this to life. I have never seen another ghost, and most people never see any during their entire lives. Which would suggest they are very rare, and normally a spirit can’t exist past the death of it’s body. My sister’s ghost only appears in proximity to me, and is not tied to a specific location. Because she is my twin, then the most likely explanation is that we share the same spirit, that was divided into two bodies, and it is this that allows her to exist outside of a body, as part of it is still contained within mine.
None of us have any definitive answers to our finite existences but would the fact that we all have some kind of life force (spirit) beyond the physical body not point to a more open mind regarding any kind of afterlife? I’m not going to argue semantics over what is an afterlife , but clearly your sisters “spirit” showing itself fits into that category.
Ultimately we are all playing the probability game of guessing the most likely theory of what fits in with facts at our disposal and seeing a siblings spirit after death suggests to me than my philosophy of us all being meaningless collections of dust with life ending when our heart stops beating as inaccurate.
How many times have you seen what you believe to be your sister and how clearly ?
I’d also be interested to hear your definition of ” a spirit”
My point is that unless you have some kind of spiritual perspective , a ” spirit” doesn’t exist, so for your theory to hold credence there would have to be an element of spirituality implying an afterlife. The fact you have seen your sister after death or a manifestation of her is by definition ” afterlife” ..what else can it be if it’s continuing on in some form after death?
I don’t really why there must be an afterlife if spirits exist. If you read what I proposed then you would have seen where I said that the fact that she is my identical sister is important in explaining why she still continues to exist after death.
so if she continues to exist after death , how is that not an afterlife?
The fact you are talking about a spirit is in itself outside the remit of what is normally consistent of an atheist viewpoint. If there is a spirit that exists after death as you imply , then that represents an afterlife which again does not reflect an atheist stance. For eg I’m an atheist but if I saw what I viewed to be a ghost that would change everything.
The viewpoint that makes someone an atheist is the belief that there isn’t any gods. I have only observed that one ghost exists, and I have described a set of rules by which it can exist but other ghosts don’t. To suggest there is a god or an afterlife from this is jumping to conclusions for which I have no evidence. I can’t prove those rules, but I also know of nothing that would disprove them.
My point is that unless you have some kind of spiritual perspective , a ” spirit” doesn’t exist, so for your theory to hold credence there would have to be an element of spirituality implying an afterlife. The fact you have seen your sister after death or a manifestation of her is by definition ” afterlife” ..what else can it be if it’s continuing on in some form after death?
As ghosts would signify some kind of spirituality and afterlife, why do you not then believe in God ?
I don’t see why the existance of ghosts would require an afterlife, or a God. Ghosts aren’t a part of Abrahamic religions as far as I know, which is why my gf thinks it’s a demon.
A ghost whilst not evidence of a creator points at least to life after death.
The only ghost I can verify the existance of is that of my sister. She was my identical twin, so my hypotheis is that if a ghost is some kind of manifestation of a spirit or soul then the division of a zygote two create identical humans would also necessarily require the spirit to also be divided. From this my assumption is that whatever happens to a spirit after death cannot be completed yet for her as part of her (our?) spirit is still locked inside of me. I don’t have any empirical evidence for this, but it seems to be logically consistent with what I have experienced.
The fact you are talking about a spirit is in itself outside the remit of what is normally consistent of an atheist viewpoint. If there is a spirit that exists after death as you imply , then that represents an afterlife which again does not reflect an atheist stance. For eg I’m an atheist but if I saw what I viewed to be a ghost that would change everything.
Demons apparently are the wickedest form of spirit….they can get into the ‘earthly realm’ through such practices as ouja boards, clare voyancy, fortune telling etc and their aim is to drive people as mad as possible. They can possess humans and drive them mad…making them have really bad fits and all sorts of other things.
I don’t believe in such things, have you any evidence to support this claim bar the odd dodgy report from a mid west american newspaper?
