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24 November, 2012 at 5:09 pm #51609524 November, 2012 at 5:08 pm #515975
@rusty trawler wrote:
@terry wrote:
@rusty trawler wrote:
The council had a duty of care to the children.
Exactly. And they’ve failed, which is why an investigation is being launched.
To ensure that children get the proper ‘duty of care’ maybe Joyce Thacker should stand down from her position or be forcibly removed.
I’m not sure I get your issue, terry.
Are you saying it is wrong to try to attempt put children in supportive environments? Personally, in way of an illustration, I would want considerable assurances if a council placed a Christian child in a fundamentally Muslim or Jewish environment. I’d also like to think I would brave the risk of being branded a racist or being called a politically correct loony in order to support the greater needs of the child. Therefore, I commend the council for being aware of the potential pitfalls.
I’m not going to waiver in my opinion simply because there is an investigation pending. Like I said, their conclusion my have been mistaken, their concerns are laudable.
You’re entitled to your opinion. I just hope you’re not in social services though.
24 November, 2012 at 4:57 pm #515973@jen_jen wrote:
I personally think that in this case it’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Once they knew about the foster parents’ political affiliations they were on a hiding to nothing.
It was a decision based purely on political discrimination. If they’d been members of the Conservative Party the kids wouldn’t have been removed. At the end of the day the kids have been denied a safe home environment by somebody (Joyce Thacker) who clearly isn’t fit for purpose. But I’m sure that she and Kenty would get on like a house on fire.
24 November, 2012 at 4:49 pm #515971@rusty trawler wrote:
The council had a duty of care to the children.
Exactly. And they’ve failed, which is why an investigation is being launched.
To ensure that children get the proper ‘duty of care’ maybe Joyce Thacker should stand down from her position or be forcibly removed.
24 November, 2012 at 4:36 pm #515966Joyce Thacker made the decision to remove the children from their carers. After seeing the video (below) as to why she made that decision I couldn’t help but think of her as some kind of Cruella de Ville-type figure.
I agree with Tom Winnifrith’s view;
UKIP questions the idea of multiculturalism. It is not alone. That Trevor Phillips chappy (yes the former head of the Commission for Racial Equality) said that multiculturalism as we have practiced it has failed. UKIP also says that there should be limits on immigration. Again it is not alone. So do the Tories and – on occasion – the Labour party.
But it is multiculturalism that Thacker blathers on about as that is a cornerstone of the beliefs of the State employed managerial class. But to be consistent would she also deny Mr Phillips the right to provide a loving foster home mixed race kids as she has denied UKIP supporters? Of course not.
Why is it that loony left women always look like sour faced old prunes? Does that bitterness, envy and unbending need to interfere and control the lives of others just swell up in you so much that you end up as a distorted caricature: looking as ugly as your actions?
24 November, 2012 at 4:22 pm #515963@rusty trawler wrote:
I can only applaud Rotherham Council’s sensitivities to the issues involved in placing children with suitable caregivers. This is not to say that I concur with their final decision, which may have been rash, as it is possible to support a party and not agree with many of their stated beliefs.
I found it quite frightful when i read the following quote from Michael Gove:
“Rotherham council have made the wrong decision in the wrong way for the wrong reasons. Rotherham’s reasons for denying this family the chance to foster are indefensible,” he said. “The ideology behind their decision is actively harmful to children. We should not allow considerations of ethnic or cultural background to prevent children being placed with loving and stable families. We need more parents to foster, and many more to adopt.
How can a family environment ever be loving or stable if no consideration is made for the ethnic or cultural background of the children in need of sensitive treatment?
Are you serious? :?
24 November, 2012 at 4:18 pm #516092@rusty trawler wrote:
FYI Jen-Jen I no longer drive the Lotus Esprit.
What about wearing the medallion?
24 November, 2012 at 4:13 pm #515962@mrs_teapot wrote:
does that then mean we have check on all peoples politics who deal with ethnic minorities?
A government spokesperson (Michael Gove) has described Rotherham council’s decision as “indefensible”.
And he’s right.
I’m sure there are members of the Labour, Conservative and Lib Dem parties who are foster carers too. Does PC Kenty think they should be removed from parenting too? I use “PC” in the ‘politically correct’ sense as opposed to the ‘police constable’ one.
24 November, 2012 at 3:38 pm #515958@kent f OBE wrote:
you want me to explain?
:roll:That’s pretty much the answer I was expecting. :wink:
24 November, 2012 at 3:33 pm #515956@panda12 wrote:
Thanks God you don’t make the rules because if you did, you’d have Kenty and me on the next plane back to our respective “homes.”
I think you just want this country to be British born whites only.
What a disgraceful (and libellous) thing to say and an indication of just how low you’re prepared to sink.
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