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6 July, 2008 at 8:23 am #351853
But we already have a two tier system for catholics, jews, jehovahs witness, methodists etc
I don’t like the idea it but it’s difficult to argue that if you have a catholic confessional whihc dishes out hail mary’s for your sins that a sharia court can’t tell a man how to best spend his money?
5 July, 2008 at 2:28 pm #351262@giselle wrote:
I’m not sure theres anything that can be done about it short of stopping and searching every teenager on the streets which obviously isnt practical.
Why does it only seem to be such a problem here in the UK though?…..to the best of my knowledge it isnt a problem in other european countries.
Is it the fault of the parents for not teaching/instilling discipline and respect for others into their children?Maybe compulsory conscription would help.
In Germany they still have to do 9 months military service, and they dont appear to have half the problems with their teens as we do……just a thought, I dont pretend to be an authority.We couldnt do that here- the lovable little scro/tes would claim it infringes their human rights
As for stop and search- actually- if the Met undertook a massive publicity campaign that undercover officers would be starting continuous stop and search drives AND anyone found with a knife received an immediate 2 year jail sentence..I bet it would soon die down
But then again, the lovvies will claim stop and search infringes human rights too
5 July, 2008 at 6:57 am #350751@emmalush wrote:
@slayer wrote:
You obvioulsy don’t listen/watch the news then do you
This was the lead news item on Radio 4, BBC, ITV, Sky News and ALL lead with exactly the same thing- that WOMEN and ETHNIC MINORITIES will be positively discriminated against and that white males will be negatively discrimintaed against
Harriet Harman was given a right rogering on radio 4
Of course you’d never let something like facts get in the way of a good story
If a white person has the same qualifications as a non white, the employer HAS TO GIVE THE JOB TO THE NON WHITE.
Right rogering, and then they played the radio version of carry on camping
Not that you’d let facts get in the way of a good story (and I think this is one of the most divisive laws Labour are trying to bring in) T
They don’t HAVE to give the job to a woman or ethnic minority (interestingly you chose “non white” when the term is ethnic minority which INCLUDES white non British- not that you’d let facts get in the way of a good story)- it is not about qualifications- it is about the overall interview
BUT, as someone who has recruited over 40 staff in the last two years, I don’t need a law to tell how to manage an interview- the best person for the job gets it- simple as
AS for carry on camping- more like carry on di/ck
5 July, 2008 at 6:51 am #351850@emmalush wrote:
AND SAY, I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANY LONGER
I am referring to 3 stories recently, the first being the Lord chief justice, speaking at an East London islamic centre on thursday, he said
“muslims in britian should be able to live under sharia law”
ERR- NO he didnt say anything like that (not that you’d let facts get in the way of a good story)- he said aspects of familial sharia law could be used to resolve aspects of domestic dispute, just as aspects of Jewish law, Jehovahs Wintess, Catholic law etc are used in other communities BUT he said ANY sanctions issued could only come from British law
@emmalush wrote:
THEN
2 schoolboys in Stoke on Trent were given detention because they refused to kneel down and pray to allah.
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WAKE UP?
Are you using the great power you have to make a difference in your lives?
Why don’t you start motivating yourself and EMPOWER yourself?
As for point 2- simple- sack the teacher involved if she doesnt see it as a mistake- inmcompetence isnt difficult to root out if dealt with quickly
4 July, 2008 at 10:33 pm #351208@minim wrote:
Slayer, I am naturally a glass half full person, I find it difficult to be too negative for too long, but do you really think that we are in trouble?
I’m 42 n for the first time in my memory, I can genuinely see a scenario where we are in big trouble- I guess I’d equate it to how it felt in the 1950’s with the Cuban crisis and the world on the brink on nuclear oblivion…it’s only on the role of a dice
The Western world relies on fossil fuel, the majority of which is produced by countries who don’t like the West- it affects our basic standard of living- food, heating and transport costs- basic societal building blocks- it is not difficult to see one scenario of a society slowing imploding as people cannot afford to heat their houses, feed themselves or move about the country.
AND thats without the honey bees which are even more disturbing
There’s lots and lots of scare stories, conspiracy theories etc which abound, even more so since the internet took hold BUT
Google about Colony Collapse Disorder- 130,000 species of plants (including food stuffs) rely solely on pollination by bees
Einstein (allegedly) once said that the human race would die out within 4 years of the absence of bees….we may be about to find out
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-05-02-honeybee-die-off_N.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_Collapse_DisorderI think we are at a global cross roads and about to decide which way to turn- it may be that we won’t know where the road leads until it is too late to turn back
Yep- I think genuinely and honestly we are in a whole pile of trouble
4 July, 2008 at 10:15 pm #350747@emmalush wrote:
Bet ya dint hear dat on z news, of course not, you most likely were told its about helping the elderly or women, which is true, but the bill also advocates giving jobs to ethnic minorities ahead of white people, as legal.
Equality?
Would those of you that voted for racist labour now appologise and make a point of never voting for this filth ever again, that would be the decent thing to do.
You obvioulsy don’t listen/watch the news then do you
This was the lead news item on Radio 4, BBC, ITV, Sky News and ALL lead with exactly the same thing- that WOMEN and ETHNIC MINORITIES will be positively discriminated against and that white males will be negatively discrimintaed against
Harriet Harman was given a right rogering on radio 4
Of course you’d never let something like facts get in the way of a good story
3 July, 2008 at 10:03 pm #351198and to top it all…all the honey bees are leaving- we are well and truly up the creek without a boat let alone a paddle
30 June, 2008 at 9:01 pm #351338barking but I have read the father is taking this to court to show how ridiculous it is
30 June, 2008 at 9:00 pm #351238@waspish wrote:
someoe commented earlier that a lot of the kids being stabbed are black, and i seemed to me that the hint was made that it was seen as acceptable [by the media] because the kids were black. [forgive me if i read the wrong thing into it] but it also has to be said that almost all young men stabbed, or arrested for stabbing, were black. black on black crime is a real broblem in the london area, as the american gang culture is imported and mimmicked here, there are gangs of crips and bloods in london. directly copied from the usa. these lads are the worst threat to anyone, as they actually believe they are above the law.
That is my argument Wasp- if 16 or 17 white teenagers had been murdered this year in one city, the reaction would have been different. In fact several of those murdered have been innocent bystanders but the one I would vouch we all remember is the lad in the bakery- the white lad
You are right though- most of it is black on black and just as they do not view their lives as worthwhile, neither do the government
Effective deterrnt requires an entire overhaul of the sentencing guidelines though- you can’t say 10 years minimum for carrying a knife when you only get 4 years for manslaughter!
29 June, 2008 at 10:05 pm #351219^^^^
Good to see intellectual stimluating debate isnt dead then
What interests me (and blows much of the likes of EmmaLush’s arguments out of the water)- 16 out of 17 of these murders are on black kids; IF there had been 17 murders on white kids in London this year, do you think the press coverage would have been different?
It is very very tragic and the government seem stricken with inertia
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