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@pete wrote:
And in yr 5 this current government will do what exactly, will they still cut services and increase taxes then ? ? I say in election yr, if the riots don’t hasten an election that is.
Cut NHS spending doesn’t affect errr.. oh yeah the rich
Benefits ? who needs them if you’re rich
Schools… there’s always private education if you’re rich
Raise VAT.. that’s ok i’m rich
Policing.. were rich… gated communities don’t you knowALL politicians appear to be self serving lying hypocrites to me. I’m already sick of hearing them whine how it was all Labour’s fault, much as Labour did when they got into power.
Cut indirect taxes… all indirect taxes… cut the wage difference between lower and higher earners and raise direct tax to pay for services. It’s not fucking rocket science is it. It’s the people at fault, they want the best but they don’t want to pay for it.
So anyway no new schools, that’ll save money, 48,000 less police, The NHS will get feck all apart from some highly paid “management” to oversee the non spending of money.
Now then which countries are still taking immigrants cause this one is fucked.No this government will spend its time trying to find a way to pay back the £845000000000 national debt saddled on the UK taxpayer by Labour. Will try to balance the books after Labour spent a third more each year than they took in. We’re already (those of us who pay tax) seeing almost 48% of our income going back to the state one way or another and you want the government to increase taxation? We already work till mid May just paying back the state before we earn anything for ourselves out of our yearly wages and you want us to pay more?
And who encouraged mass immigration simply to rub the right’s noses in diversity?
Labour haven’t wrecked anything for the rich, they wrecked things for the poor, they always do.
And if you try to cut the wage difference, what do you think will happen? People will leave, they already are, the rich (who employ people) will go elsewhere and so the burden of paying back the debt will fall on those of us who are left.
Raising taxes beyond a certain level becomes self defeating, don’t believe me, then google Laffer curve.
So, no new schools, blame Labour,
No new hospitals, blame Labour,
heading into a double dip recession, blame Labour,
Massive cuts in public services, guess what?
You ranted at the fact that the School building project had been cancelled, so, where do you want the money to come from bearing in mind that there’s none left and we’re in hock because the previous government spent all the trust fund, raided the pensions, sold off all the gold cheap, maxed out the credit cards and then decided they could just print money a la Zimbabwe?Yes I blame Labour, the facts speak for themselves.
@rubyred wrote:
@quiet_man wrote:
@pete wrote:
Much as i love a reasoned argument anyone who thinks Maggie was good for this country needs help. Any government should look at the social aspects as well as the financial, Maggie was nothing short of a cold hearted bitch who ripped communities asunder.
Still you can hope they don’t build a nuclear power station near you, there’s no alternative now.Social costs money, you can’t keep spending what you haven’t got. Thatcher was a direct result of socialism, you got what you asked for.
I never i never voted the auld sweetie !!
No, but the likes of you brought her about.
@pete wrote:
Much as i love a reasoned argument anyone who thinks Maggie was good for this country needs help. Any government should look at the social aspects as well as the financial, Maggie was nothing short of a cold hearted bitch who ripped communities asunder.
Still you can hope they don’t build a nuclear power station near you, there’s no alternative now.Social costs money, you can’t keep spending what you haven’t got. Thatcher was a direct result of socialism, you got what you asked for.
@rubyred wrote:
slums ?? so why were the creme de la creme of council Semi- Detached the first to go ?
houses built for families with wee ones.. now full of old wimmin with the Son in Laws like Vultures. waiting to claim ,, circling overhead in decent council stock. a vast profit to be made. did THAT help with homeless.ness Post war decent. stone built housing ?
Did having to call in the IMF because we were broke? Labour wrecked Britain, they always do it because they can’t grasp the principle of not spending more than they take in. Britain was a basket-case in the 1970s – an “offshore banana republic”, a land of perpetual power cuts, strikes and unburied bodies that’s why millions had to lose their jobs, industries and communities had to be destroyed and billions had to be handed over to the wealthy. Britain in the 70s felt like the Soviet bloc, where men with “bad teeth and ill-fitting suits” (union leaders) called the shots in public life. Labour paved the way for Thatcherism with the then prime minister Jim Callaghan’s public conversion to monetarism in 1976 and the most savage public spending and real wage cuts since the war. That in turn triggered the much mythologised Winter of Discontent – an entirely avoidable revolt of low-paid public service workers against a self-defeating determination to beat an inflationary crisis at their expense.
Did they learn? No, over the last 13 years Labour spent 48% of our income, yet failed to deliver decent services. They promised prosperity, yet taxed and regulated our economy into stasis. They talked up social justice, yet consigned millions to welfare dependency.Don’t tell me tales about the 70’s and 80’s I lived through them, I learned exactly what socialism meant and why it should never be allowed near the reins of power.
@rubyred wrote:
@quiet_man wrote:
@pete wrote:
In the meantime the rich get richer, the extra taxes are unimportant to them and the poor , well they’re poor they don’t matter.
Perhaps you’d better have a word with your socialist master then and explain to them the principle of not spending more than you earn.
13 years in power for Labour and like every Labour government before them they left higher unemployment and an economy in ruins. Yet still 30% of the population vote for them, suckers!
UNTRUE… after Thatcher, councils barely recovered, and were just about getting there. She sold off all the council houses etc. meaning folks bought and played with Monopoly money, causing almost civil unrest and homelessness.. she privatised things that are now a shambles ! She sytematically carved up working class communities, especially in the stong mining towns of Yorkshire and FIFE. She attempted the abolision of the Trade Unions..
as long as ONE of us remain. there is power in the Union..
NO ONE WITH a CONSCIENCE ever voted Tory !
She was forced into that by socialist incompetence, inefficient nationalised industries losing billions, idiot trade unions striking and making them uneconomic compared to the rest of the world. Bodies lying unburied on the streets of Liverpool due to a strike. She gave hope to thousands by letting them buy their homes and escape the socialist slums Labour had produced. removed the shackles of the closed shop and put the unions back in their place.
No one but a fool could be a socialist, it never works, it never will and only an imbecile believes it can.
@gazlan wrote:
Last year, the Israeli government announced that it would be setting up a network of bloggers to combat websites deemed “problematic” by the Zionist state following a massive online backlash to Israel’s brutal bombing of Gaza.
Israel’s goal was to flood Internet message boards in English, French, Spanish and German with their own PR agents who would attempt to manufacture a contrived consensus that the IDF’s actions were justified.
Like Israel, the U.S. military industrial complex hires armies of trolls to spew propaganda in defense of the war on terror and in support of bombing whatever broken-backed third world country is being targeted next.
CENTCOM has programs underway to infiltrate blogs and message boards to ensure people, “have the opportunity to read positive stories,”presumably about how Iraq is a wonderful liberated democracy and the war on terror really is about protecting Americans from Al-CIAda.
In May 2008, it was revealed that the Pentagon was expanding “Information Operations” on the Internet with purposefully set up foreign news websites, designed to look like independent media sources but in reality carrying direct military propaganda.
More recently the New York Times published an exposé on how privately hired operatives were appearing on major US news networks promoting the interests and operations of the Pentagon and generating favorable news coverage of the so-called war on terror while posing as independent military analysts.
This operation was formally announced in 2006 when the Pentagon set up a unit to “better promote its message across 24-hour rolling news outlets, and particularly on the internet”.
Again, the Pentagon said the move would boost its ability to counter “inaccurate” news stories and exploit new media.
Last year, the US Air Force announced a “counter-blog” response plan aimed at fielding and reacting to material from bloggers who have “negative opinions about the US government and the Air Force.”
The plan, created by the public affairs arm of the Air Force, includes a detailed twelve-point “counter blogging” flow-chart that dictates how officers should tackle what are described as “trolls,” “ragers,” and “misguided” online writers.
So this is who Frumpy FAT ar#se pete and his groaning sidekick works for…didnt you just know it people ? 8)
Nah, we just do it cos you’re a terrorist supporting prat :lol:
@pete wrote:
In the meantime the rich get richer, the extra taxes are unimportant to them and the poor , well they’re poor they don’t matter.
Perhaps you’d better have a word with your socialist master then and explain to them the principle of not spending more than you earn.
13 years in power for Labour and like every Labour government before them they left higher unemployment and an economy in ruins. Yet still 30% of the population vote for them, suckers!
@rubyred wrote:
Plus cutting all community projects, that actually do some good regards giving young adults a place to go and help with job seeking, and the first steps into the near defunct building trade. Be all money making firms now, I watched a documentary on one of them, yes they got the great unwashed into jobs, but they did not allow for no babysitters etc.
almost Dickensian !
Ah yes, socialism always works until other peoples money runs out, even then they just print some more, take a look at Zimbabwe to see what happens next.
Hopefully Labour will never ever get back into power to wreck the economy and push the country to the brink of bankruptcy economic imbeciles is about the kindest thing you can say about socialists.
@rubyred wrote:
the Grand old U.S of A,, fund isreal as a lot of jews live there..(U.S) post war they needed a country so were gifted a small part of Palestine ( arab land) … instead of being greatful, they continue to demand more and more. the US would never declare war as its heavily funding Israel.
its a case of the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, like anywhere , one might suppose ? But the greater majority of Palestine is in need. there is need there and they have boycotts on medical supplies etc.. basically, in a nutshell Nemesis.. The poor person loses out and cant really win in a war thats funded by Capitalism. . the Yankee dollar Wins again !You know, funny that, Palestine was a British Empire protectorate not a USA outpost and not for sale. I suggest you read the Balfour declaration rather than just making stuff up on the spot.
Did you also know that Stalins Soviet Union was the first country to recognise Independent Israel?@gazlan wrote:
I often keep in mind though, the difficulty in understanding just who the terrorists are and just who decides that… :?
Well lets see, was the Flotilla’s objective humanitarian or not?
Evidence:* Israel in the past year has delivered over 1 million tons of aid to Gaza. (awful awful terrorist state Israel)
* Israel offered the Flotilla’s cargo entry to Gaza via the Ashdod port after inspection.
* The Flotilla’s organizers rejected this offer.
* The Flotilla’s objective was violent confrontation and provocation with Israel.
* The so-called “Peace Activists” were chanting “Intifada, Intifada.” and “Oh Jews, the Army of Muhammad will return”.
* It was the Army of Muhammad under the guise of humanitarians.
* A passenger proclaimed on video the aim was one of two good things – achieving martyrdom or reaching Gaza.
* Their means: axes, knives, metal bars and guns.
* The operation was organized by the radical group the IHH, with extensive and documented ties to terrorist groups.
* Calling the Flotilla operation a humanitarian mission is an insult to true humanitarian orgs such as The Red Cross.I don’t know how Israel gets away with delivering all that aid to Gaza, surely someone should step in and stop them, it’s not doing their reputation any good at all :roll:
