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@anc wrote:

Did is lovely – wish I could go to meet her!

What’s stopping you?

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@pete wrote:

If you’re female i’m the king of Norway :wink:

Well, Queen of Norway

Nah, Court Jester but not a very funny one.

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@kent f OBE wrote:

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@anc wrote:

I find Pete quite entertaining acutally!

Ditto :)

why thank you my little siggy puppies :lol: xx

puppies = dogs? :P

Tsk Panda…one is not a pooch :lol:

Nah not you, I refer to anc and velvet, Pervy Pete’s self confessed fan club.

I wonder if he’s interogated them about their sexual preferences?

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@Shirley Valentine wrote:

All of my nieces and nephews – ages range from 10 to 17 – are on it.

I’ve often thought of messaging them, pretending to be a suitably aged new friend, and eventually asking them to meet me somewhere, to show them how easy it is to be fooled.

Never done it, I’d have to get their parents permission first, (it wouldn’t feel right otherwise) and I couldn’t be sure their parents would keep quiet – but it would certainly be an eye-opener if they’re expecting to meet a new14 year old pal and out walks their 45 y/o auntie :shock:

Aren’t there laws against adults pretending to be kids and “grooming” youngsters to meet them? :P

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@pete wrote:

@Velvet 1 wrote:

@anc wrote:

I find Pete quite entertaining acutally!

Ditto :)

why thank you my little siggy puppies :lol: xx

puppies = dogs? :P

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@anc wrote:

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@Velvet 1 wrote:

@anc wrote:

I find Pete quite entertaining acutally!

Ditto :)

Well it is all a matter of opinion. And taste.

Pete is rather obsessed with my sexuality – I don’t find that entertaining, more perverse.

erm, exactly who is obsessed?!!!! :lol:

Pete is my dear. So much so, first he thought I was a gay man, now he knows I am female, he thinks I’m a dyke!

In fact, Pete was so obsessed with my sexuality that he felt the need to send me a private message and apologise to me for thinking I was a gay man!

So, now you are upto speed dear, do keep up.

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@gazlan wrote:

I dont for one instant believe that there is total freedom of choice in all countries, that of course is a totally different subject all together. My opinion is, and i do believe with respect to that of Islam, it is forbidden to force anyone to adhere to faith, now again, there are countries which do carry out various acts contrary to their religious doctrine, perhaps they mis-interpret the scriptures, again, a totally seperate debate.
Where force is used against these women, of course it is wrong. There can be no justification for the forcing of anyone to subscribe to any behaviour they dont willingly want to subscribe to… As far as muslim men are concerned, i believe they too are duty bound to refrain from sexual activity before marriage with muslimah`s. They are however, permitted to carry out relations with non- muslimah`s… Now i know this is a hypocritical process, the intimate details of which you may wish to ask of a muslim male, which i AM NOT!
Where there is freedom and choice and such women do subscribe to this operation, then quite simply, they have denied their faith in the actions committed requiring them to have this surgery carried out.

I know quite a few muslim women – freedom of choice is one thing they don’t have. They are subservient to their religion and to the men in their family, men who incidentially can do whatever they like.

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Of course, humans are humans are humans………..I have also stated on this site that, what distinguishes the human from the animal is the power of thought control and conscience. These “muslim” women know very well what is expected of them when they submit to God, i have also stated on this site that, with religion, there can be no sitting on the fence. If anyone claims to submit to a particular faith, they are duty bound to follow its doctrines, not following the doctrines and yet claiming the title of that faith, fools only themselves…..

Any human being can live in complete harmony with all life, with peace, justice, truth and conscience, there is no need for any faith if the above ideology is considered and followed, simply, subscribing to any faith holds requirements and responsibilities, abstinance for instance, is not beyond the grasp of any free thinking human being.

Marriage is of course, a duty bound connection to another soul and quite rightly should lead each soul in that marriage to steer away from adultry, and blatant promiscuity.

But these woman cannot deviate from the religion though can they? They do not willingly submit to God, they are born into Islam and have very little or no chance of leaving the religion. If they do, they face being outcast or worse…

And you didn’t answer about men – are muslim men expected to abstain from sex before marriage or are they free do do what they like and it’s just the woman who is expected to remain a virgin?

You make it sound as if these women have a choice but in reality, that’s not true is it?

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@gazlan wrote:

The simple fact these women are in need of this operation before wedlock shows their lack of respect for their faith…..All you have done using the term ” feckin muslims ” is tar all muslims with the same brush ! :roll:

Gazlan, it can be argued that these women who have sex before marriage are actually just following natural human behaviour first and foremost (that is the instinct to reproduce) rather than doing anything wrong.

Is this not true in light of a previous post of yours:

“…natural means to me the reproduction of life, given that the `natural ` means of reproduction is by way of inception and conception through the participation of sexual intercourse between two bodies….i will add, this inception process mainly incorperates a degree of lust/attraction…”

It must be argued that religion cannot take precedence over natural human behaviour.
After all, religion is just a form of social control intended to make us deny our natural animal instincts and live a certain way.

Marriage for instance, was invented to stop / discourage people from being promiscuous.

So these Muslim woman are guilty of nothing except being human.

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@gazlan wrote:

The simple fact these women are in need of this operation before wedlock shows their lack of respect for their faith…..All you have done using the term ” feckin muslims ” is tar all muslims with the same brush ! :roll:

So does no sex before marriage extend to Muslim men as well?

You see I don’t like chauvinism so I hope all is equal.

But how can these women have sex before marriage anyway? I thought they were covered up to hide their beauty from the wandering eyes of strange men?

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