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All I see on these boards and in the room, is little cliques and intended to make a comment about those cliques and the connection to the recent goings on, you referred to when starting this thread.
Well, I can only speak for myself, obviously, but I’d be interested in reading those thoughts. I hope my approach and lack of ‘commitment’ won’t put you off.
Ok, call me thtoooopid if ya like, but I thought that was his opinion ?
Eyup thtoooopid!
Oh wait… no… hang on.. ya right!!
I take that right back!
Tho Thorry Mooothey!
throws a ball of wool for malley*
Oh c’monnnnn Nemesis.. lazy here remember lol! ‘Throws’ indeed! A gentle roll will suffice. But I appreciate the gesture!
OMalleyTheAlleyCat wrote: And now the latest headlines… Ge admits trying to provoke a reaction for personal gain Just my method to keep a topic going that interests me. *smiley face*
So constructed only to appear ‘headline-like’ – but really just acknowledgement of your genuine wish to continue the debate and to ‘provoke’ my lazy ass into contributing (the gain).
Of course if you had asked me rather than jumping the gun, I would have said just that.
See above. No guns jumped here (that sounds like a very energetic thing to do btw!).
You also confirm exactly what I expected, you gave no opinion about your own questions and basically this is just a show off thread, but hey we are all human, even cat men.
Showing off? By posting without much prior thought? By openly stating I was mostly interested in hearing the views of others? By since stating my motivation (to challenge my existing thoughts, whilst avoiding potential muddying of the waters with them). By then giving my personal idea of an Alpha (which, as it happens, hasn’t changed). And by then stating that I had very little to offer on the Wannabe v Bully question (other than that neither was an Alpha).
*Licks own wedding tackle”
NOW I’m showing off ;)
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I have to admit, I’m torn. On the one hand, I recognise I’m being urged, by various methods (all of which are fair in love, war and board chat), to contribute more. On the other hand, that ball of wool ain’t gonna chase itself. Okay, I’ll do a bit. Then I’ll be all about the wool… or the ball… I never know which it is that attracts me so. It has to be the ball really… cos it’s hard to chase just wool. Why always wool though? Wouldn’t just any old ball do? Maybe I should start a thread.
Annnnnnyway… where was I? Oh yeah…
Soooooo, in summary, OMalley = Lazy + Selfish
Waddya mean that’s not gonna cut it?
*sighhhhhhh* Okayyyy…
I’m being credited with attributes I admit to possessing, but which I’m way too lazy to utilise on anything like a regular basis. I had a spurt of energy, posed a question or two (on a whim, more than anything), then immediately fizzled out. In my haste, I didn’t read any of the posting rules. I’m only guessing, but there must be one along the lines of:
“You are allowed to post questions only if your motives for doing so are clearly documented, and realistic expectations are set with regard to your future involvement in any subsequent debate. You must also supply in the initial post, answers to your own question(s) (and the reasoning behind those answers). Furthermore, don’t come here with your half-arsed attitude and think you can get away with it.. boyo. They’ll have you, they’ll bleedin’ have you..”.
And now the latest headlines…
Ge admits trying to provoke a reaction for personal gain
Just my method to keep a topic going that interests me. *smiley face*
Mooosey ‘gets it’
“funnily enough , apart from Scep, posters seem to be of a pretty like mind and that the Alpha Male is in fact a ‘ good guy ‘ but tough when needed, doesn’t bully or throw his weight around and is never cruel for no reason. That said surely the ones who do the opposite are , indeed , the bullies and wannabe’s”.
Kenty hits nail on head
“Shurrup you pansies”
Mooosey ‘gets it’ again
“I didn’t see the thread as at all confrontational ? I assumed it was posted as the words ‘ bully” victim ‘ ‘ fake’ etc etc had been bandied about like confetti on the threads that have now been removed”
Mooosey gets away with one
“I’m sure you’re both ‘ Alphas ‘ “
Almost..
Ge ‘gets it’ (though probably still a little frustrated at OP’s lethargy)
“It’s not a battle of “alpha’s” though is it. Just debate and interpretation of that debate”
Scep in concurrence shocker
“I think Gerry has a point”
Scep expects too much
“TC asks for specific points and asks for debate. he then provides a laid-back answer which doesn’t rally answer his own questions”
Before admitting he should know better by now
“However, TC being the laid-back, lovable and lazy git he always comes across in the cartoon character he admits to all with a style as cool as The Fonz from Happy Days”
OMalley uses others’ posts to make his points and save time
………..
OMalley gives in to laziness
“So.. yeah… anyway.. what ya all think about some political thingy that’s probably been in the news or summat…. “ *buys ya all a drink*
OMalley attends support group
*stands up* “Hi everyone. My names OMalley and I don’t do board posting as it’s meant to be”. “I also don’t know if there’s an ‘ashamed’ facey thing and I’m too lazy to look, so instead I’ll just will one to appear. It probably won’t. But only because I don’t want it badly enough”.
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Personally I wouldn’t have linked the question to such an extreme example and then used negative language like “wannabe” and “bully” in relation to that question and indirectly suggest a direct correlation. But you carry, I hope others give you the answers, you “selfishly” seek.
You mean we all do things differently?
Maybe out of good manners for others on this site, he should explain the difference between an “alpha”, a “wannabe” and a “bully in direct relation to this site and which was the meat behind his initial question. As he asks Sceptical for a further explanation, it is entirely reasonable to expect the same courtesy from him.
I don’t recall asking Scep for an explanation, simply stated that his assumption intrigued me.
Again, my post was selfish. They were questions that popped into my head, which I posted for the purpose of discussion. I had very few preconceived ideas, other than what an Alpha is to me, which I’ve since posted. I’m still considering the other questions, when I have a few minutes here and there.
Oh and finally, in my opinion the OP’s response doesn’t give an opinion in reference to his original question, nor attempt to. He asked 3 questions about “alpha”, wannabe and bully” in reference to this site and the question was quite specific . What’s the purpose of the thread if he doesn’t provide an opinion of his own and provide an explanation to support his question. Of course it could well be my own Internet paranoia, but having read his response a few times, I distinctly get the impression he threw the hook out and has waited to see what the catch would be, before committing. Nought as strange as folk.
Purpose to the thread
“I’m quite selfish in that I want to hear the opinions of others purely to see if they bring anything new to the table. Perhaps something I’ve not considered before. Something I may even adopt over my current thinking.”
Throwing out a hook, see what the catch would be
“I’m just after opinions (and definitions). I may well give mine a little later, but in the meantime, I’d like to know what other people think – rather than discussing mine”
…before committing.
See above. Why would I commit, when the whole purpose of my post was to selfishly want to hear what others think. Would I be embarrassed if some of the posts changed my views? Nope. Do you want to know if they did?
Please forgive my lazy, non-quotey reply.
1) I never mentioned gender.
2) If you Googled, cut and pasted – I’d rather have your opinions (unless of course, the paste reflects exactly your own opinion, in which case thank you).
3) I wasn’t particularly interested in the history of the terminology (I have Google and other resources for that purpose) but rather what the terms mean to you guys, here and now, particularly in relation to chat. Probably should’ve made that clearer, but I’ll survive :)
4) Hi Kenty I’m great thanks (as in very well, not particularly remarkable lol). Hope you’re well too! Xxx
5) Thanks Martin for the clear out!
I think it’s clear by now we all have wildly different ideas of what an Alpha is, in the same way we have different definitions of, say, bullying, banter or trolling. It’s all good.
I’m quite selfish in that I want to hear the opinions of others purely to see if they bring anything new to the table. Perhaps something I’ve not considered before. Something I may even adopt over my current thinking. I may challenge opinions, looking for substance, generally discarding those which appear to have been formed on a whim, but with no desire to put others down, whatever their process.
How enjoyable would it be if we could share our opinions without the need to try foisting them on others, showing off, point scoring, jostling for position or worrying about the image we project? (most often to same gender).
I find something interesting in the majority of board posts (and it’s not always the point that the poster is trying to make). An example would be Scep’s post when he states “TC (me) likes the idea of the alpha male”. I’m intrigued as to how he came to that conclusion, rather than annoyed that he did (with, as far as I can see, no evidence to support it).
For the sake of it, my thoughts regarding the True Alpha (I’ll say male now, simply because it allows me to talk about ‘him’) :
He never aspires to be one – and the process of becoming one happens naturally. Fiercely protective of his ‘pack’ and equally devoted to doing whatever is best for them, he is initially made to feel, and eventually comes to truly believe that there’s nobody better suited to the role than he. His supreme confidence, whilst clear for all to see, is never flaunted. He’ll still invite opinion, as he’s not in the least threatened by it. He has the total trust of his pack, and would never exploit it. He’s totally unencumbered by any self image concerns.
I could go on, but you get the picture. In short, he’s a nice guy who is given and accepts total power and uses it for the good of his pack, nothing else.
Does he exist?
Who knows?
Oh and Scep, Alpha is just label, don’t be worried about what people stick it on :)
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Define alpha male, TC. I remember once that to be an alpha male was all the rage. I never wanted to be. They upset me, maybe because they always seemed like prime bullies. Many wannabe bullies here. I assume that they’re bullied a lot at home or work, and it’s their way of handling it. So my guess is that an alpha male is a bully with aplomb
I’m just after opinions (and definitions). I may well give mine a little later, but in the meantime, I’d like to know what other people think – rather than discussing mine.
I will say though, that to me, a True Alpha never bullies.
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