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29 April, 2006 at 7:19 pm #211925
Just to reiterate, Professor Cantle wasn’t saying that there’s something wrong with all-white neighbourhoods. He’s saying that an all-white neighbourhood is only “unhealthy” when there is a significant amount of racism and xenophobia in that area.
Obviously, that sort of racism and xenophobia is something that is increased and encouraged by BNP activity. Far-right groups helped create a poisonous and flammable atmosphere that led to the riots in the North a few years ago. Another example would be housing estates where people of different races used to get along until the BNP started peddling their propaganda resulting in tension and racist crimes there.
That’s why I call the BNP subversive because it has a destabilizing effect on the country. The BNP doesn’t care about ruining the country or destroying harmonious communities as long as it can get power and increase its sphere of influence.
29 April, 2006 at 3:06 am #210813and here was I thinking that everyone lived in a 4-dimensional world :roll:
As for a quote, I just told you I quoted Phil Edwards from his interview on the BBC with Jon Sopel.
Incidentally, that Phil Edwards is a strange figure. He calls himself Dr Phil Edwards but who knows whether his credentials are real. He sometimes uses the alias Stuart Russell and claims to have taught at the University of Nottingham but his story smells a bit fishy. He apparently specializes in both chemistry and quantum mechanics :lol: :lol: I think his real name must be Walter Mitty.
29 April, 2006 at 2:36 am #211986@ugo wrote:
@tommy-toxen wrote:
So, Pete Doherty’s hate of racism comes from his “drug-induced” brain, and you are suggesting everyone who is against racism must also be “smackheads”
I wasn’t too sure before, but now I know you’re a wind-up.
I AINT NO SMACK HEAD
No, you’re a slap-head :!:
28 April, 2006 at 8:35 pm #210712@emmalush wrote:
@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
1 John tyndall founded the BNP so of course a picture of him in nazi uniform is relevant to whether the BNP is a neo-nazi party.
So to use your childish logic of thought, all germans are still nazis, because they once were :roll:
2 Holocaust denial is something that relates predominantly to the extermination of 6 million Jews during WWII.
No it doesnt, thats what you’ve been brainwashed into believing by liberal fascists, because they hate hitler and those who they feel think along his ideological standing.
Get ya head out your arce, and start thinking for yourself!! You cant possibly know what you just said.Do you even accept that 6 million Jews were exterminated in concentration camps?
I would rather believe that than the oppositte thought.
3 David Copeland was a terrorist who had bnp membership.
Had, not has.
Tony Lecomber is a convicted terrorist who still has bnp membership.
You have proof of this right?
What about tony blair and jack straw, there terrorists and have labour membership, and are funded by English tax payers.
Atleast dik turpin wore a mask :P
1 All Germans were members of the nazi party??? No they weren’t you dopey cow :roll:
2 Hating Hitler is a bad thing now?
3 Tony Lecomber was convicted for conspiracy to cause explosions. He even had explosives on his person when he was arrested.
4 Jack Straw’s a terrorist?? WTF?
28 April, 2006 at 8:28 pm #211212Ugo’s not a bigot and the Pope’s not Catholic.
28 April, 2006 at 8:20 pm #210811“Wants to get rid of minority groups” and “ideally would like to see 100% repatriation of minority groups” are 2 ways of saying exactly the same thing you bloody fool :lol: :roll:
28 April, 2006 at 8:11 pm #211921@emmalush wrote:
@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
Professor Ted Cantle wrote the report on the Oldham riots. I think you’ve taken his comments out of context. Read these quotes from The Times:
I have them on video, thats how i was able to write them down. If your miniscule brain still doesnt understand, GO ASK CENTRAL NEWS FOR A COPY!!
“Some of the neighbouring areas of Notts and Derbyshire do seem to be unhealthily all-white. There is some evidence to show they are hostile to black and ethnic minorities.”
Which is? And where is the anti-white hostility? You can understand now why white people feel they need protecting from idiots who run our society.
So rather than saying, out-of-the-blue, that some areas were “unhealthily all white” what he was actually saying was that the fact that some of those areas are sympathetic to the BNP and they are hostile to non-white people mean that the all-white nature of those places is unhealthy.
Your shifty little libertarian mind just cannot bare to think that your marxist ideology is failing before your very eyes, can you.
So rather than saying what you did, ask before assuming wrongly.
Emma, you say I have a miniscule brain yet you don’t understand how remarks from an interview can be taken out of context? You failed to mention in your post that Ted Cantle was the author of the report on the oldham riots and he was talking about all-white neighbourhoods in relation to the the spread of the far-right ideology and racial hatred in those areas. So, in that sense, you took his remarks out of context.
28 April, 2006 at 6:05 pm #211917Professor Ted Cantle wrote the report on the Oldham riots. I think you’ve taken his comments out of context. Read these quotes from The Times:
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So rather than saying, out-of-the-blue, that some areas were “unhealthily all white” what he was actually saying was that the fact that some of those areas are sympathetic to the BNP and they are hostile to non-white people mean that the all-white nature of those places is unhealthy.
28 April, 2006 at 5:46 pm #211202@ugo wrote:
As for the idea that you get treated better if you don’t speak English well that’s rubbish since MOST jobs require you to have a basic standard of English and Maths. Also, it’s hard to get by in a country if you don’t speak the language.
Maybe I wasnt clear enough , I said if you dont speak the language you are far better looked after by goverment hand outs than you are if your white .
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Once i was in a jobcentre i think it was maybe around about 1988, I was in a que stood behind an Asian guyhe walked to the counter & couldnt speak english , This being a small village like jobcentre , So they sent a member of staff out in a car to drive eight miles to Burnley jobcentre to bring back an asain speking employee to interpretate for him they where saying right Mr (cant remember his name ) lets call him Vindaloo .
Right Mr Vindaloo you can claim housing benifit , full dole for you & your family & so on & so on , FFS it turned out he`d only been in the country 3 days ….when us white folks go in there you have to admitt you dont get half as much information given to you than they do….. oh no its sign here & off you go …..
Excuse me mr jobcentre dude can i have a housing benifit form please ….
No now bugga off
Mr Vindaloo wants a housing benifit form ………Oooops theres none here hang on i`ll just nip up to the 31st floor & fetch him one …no its not a problem at all :twisted:
You’re just making this crap up as you go along. Are you trying to tell me that he was given a council home within 3 days of entering the country? What a lie! Also he couldn’t get “Full dole” if he had only been in the country for 3 days. Surely he would have had to deal with the Home Office before he could deal with the benefits agency. You’re trying to tell me he managed to deal with the Home Office within 2 days without being able to speak any English and on the 3rd day went to the jobcentre?? What a steaming pile of crap!
If he was a legal migrant then he wouldn’t have been allowed in the country if he had no means of supporting himself. If he was an asylum seeker he wouldn’t have been sent to a jobcentre since he would be ineligible to work in this country and ineligible to receive jobseekers allowance. So I don’t believe that he would have gone to a jobcentre within 3 days of entering the country. Furthermore, they couldn’t have sorted out his claim there and then on the spot. They probably would have just given him forms to fill out the first time he went there and given him an appointment to come back.
It’s so obvious that you are lying. You’re trying to tell me that you were in the jobcentre the whole time while the man was told to wait, someone did a 16 mile roundtrip, the interpreter spoke to the man, the interpreter translated the numerous forms that the man had to fill out, and the interpreter helped the man with further interviews. You were there the whole time? Bullsh1t!
This is what I’m talking about, myths about immigrants that people often take at face value.
28 April, 2006 at 5:14 pm #210809I ask myself sometimes why I bother……
The BNP asks people to vote BNP. OBV asks people tells Black people to go out and vote for any political party whether it be left, right, centre, or monster raving loony. If you can’t see the difference in that then you must be a bit simple.
How can I prove that the BNP want to get rid of all ethnic minorities from the UK? Firstly it’s in your party’s manifesto and secondly, when pressed on that specific manifesto policy, Phil Edwards told Jon Sopel on a BBC interview that ideally the BNP would like to see 100% repatriation of minority groups.
I’m not going to bother responding to your other points because you talk such crap that it would be a waste of effort.
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