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@Mr Amphibian wrote:
Mr Big:
I like your “3 people left on earth” analogy. I am getting confused as to whether this argument is about racism or etymology. I said earlier that I thought racism was partly “natural”. I am not an educated man so maybe chose my words incorrectly. I meant it had been common behaviour since humankind first evolved.
I am replying to your post because I am interested in the concept of the difference between “natural selection and “learned behavour”. When does learned behaviour become natural? In the example you give, surely it is “learned behaviour” which makes the man understand that his best chances of breeding are with the Black woman? Am I being stupid? :oops:
PS I don’t agree with Emmalush either on most points.
I take “natural” to mean something that’s instinctive. Learnt behaviour can become like 2nd nature but I wouldn’t call it natural per se. The idea of survival of the fittest is instinctive behaviour in all creatures I think. It’s not something that needs to be taught, so I assume that in a scenario like the one I gave the man would instinctively go for the younger and fitter choice. Men and women are drawn towards young, fit, attractive partners and I think that’s down to human instinct. They may not always choose that type of partner but I think that’s because they’ve learnt that they don’t need to follow their primal instinct. Well, that’s my interpretation of it anyway. I’m no expert. So going back to the original point of this thread I would say that racism is unnatural.
@emmalush wrote:
@rubyred wrote:
ooh pis off,,,at least emma makes ya sit up and take note,,we might NEVEr agree but she is damm clever! and JUST sometimes i DO listen and THINK over what she says! at least she is open in her hatred of folks,,you tories cant make yer minds up,,! yer we KNOW yer worse.!
id rather have emma any day o the week kid!
Thanks. I believe in the truth, and if someone prefers to ignore it, than thats their problem.
When i first posted this thread, people viewed, but didnt respond. Possibly because they didnt know how to. I mean, how does one in a society that teachers racism as only ever been and is a bad thing, then someone breaks that thought process in half, its hard.
Theres a cracking bit of a film (i think called V for Vendetta) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6757267008400743688&q=everybody%27s+gotta
Its about 9/11 mainly, but run it on 29 mins, and theres a bit that explains partly what im onabout.
PEOPLE BELIEVE THE ILLUSION OF THE MEDIA AND THEIR POLITICAL AND SOCIAL IDEOLOGY. They DO NOT want you to think or believe, that racism can be ok, because it puts you in a more powerfull position, that they find harder to control, control you/us. Politicians cant preach “good over evil” if you think racism isnt what they want you to believe.Its not just racism, there are water shortages :roll: YEAH RIGHT!!! No such thing my friends.
Global warming, YEAH RIGHT!!! Were killing the planet? NO WE ARE NOT!!
The iraq war is against terror, NO IT AINT, WE (BRITISH,AMERICANS ETC) ARE CAUSING TERROR.If the media have nothing of “worth” to say, we switch off, they dont have a job. If they make you BELIEVE through illusion, that water shortages are a big story, you stay tuned.
They make you think that racism is only bad, because your shocked by it, shock (illusion) SELLS. The facts are, that racism can be ok, that dont sell well.
Imagine if we didnt agree with “normal” political and social ideology? Then the media illusion would have to change.
Neil tennant of the pet shop boys said on thursdays bbc1 “this week”, the early eighties (pop music) were about the “agressive individual”. He said, there was a community spirit back then.
On the flip side, from the mid eighties to now, weve become less agressive, less individual, more professionalised (pop idol), money is power.
The media have sold us the illusion that having the individuality to think for ourselves is wrong. We listen to them, they have our attention, we buy what they sell us, we dont argue against them, weve lost faith in the community spirit.
See how easy it is to sell an ilegal war, EVEN THOUGH A MILLION PEOPLE MARCHED IN PROTEST AND THE MEDIA SHOWED IT TO US, we were still illusionised to believe the war is justifiable.
JUSTIFIABLE??? Dont worry, its just an illusion
Do you really believe all the things you said? Are you really that mad? There’s so much nonsense in your post that I don’t know where to start.
Imagine if there were only 3 people left on the planet – A 30 yr old white man, A 20 yr old black woman and an 80 yr old white woman. If the man has to choose a mate he’s going to pick the black woman, not the white woman. Even if the 2 women were closer in age, if the black woman was fit and attractive and the white woman was 22 st., unhealthy and very plain then again the man would choose the black woman. So race wouldn’t be a factor when the man has to make a decision. That is natural selection, that is instinctive and that is human nature. Racism is not natural, it is learnt behaviour.
As for no global warming, not killing the planet and no water shortages, you must be on crack.
Well there was Windscale many years ago. 11 of the 57 scares were classed as serious and all 57 incidents were important enough that they had to be reported to government ministers. As for a terrorist attack, one of the masterminds of the WTC attacks, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, originally planned to target a nuclear power plant in the USA on Sept. 11 (as well as other targets). Apparently he was overruled. Even so, it wouldn’t exactly be difficult to deliberately derail a train if you were a terrorist. You also have to remember that as the number of nuclear power stations grows then the chance of something going wrong will increase too.
If there were to be a major disaster at a nuclear power plant the consequences could be catastrophic. The surrounding area would be uninhabitable, plant-life, livestock and water supplies would be contaminated, there would be a substantial increase in birth defects, cancer, leukaemia and other symptoms related to radiation poisoning. These problems would spread beyond the immediate area of the disaster. You might say that there are numerous safety measures to prevent things going wrong but there were also numerous safety measures at that oil depot that went up in flames recently.
Even if you disregard the risk of something going wrong, what do you do with all the waste?
All the scares happened in the UK Tommy. As for a disaster at a conventional power station, the consequences wouldn’t be as severe as with a nuclear power station. The funny thing is that if we had a Chernobyl style disaster in the UK, there’d be a whole bunch of British people seeking asylum in another country. Of course they’d all go to the nearest country (France) where they’d all be welcomed with open arms.
Apart from that, there’s the whole issue of transporting radioactive material by rail. In this country we have problems keeping trains on the tracks when there are people in them let alone hazardous and radioactive material. They’d also be an easy target for terrorists.
Characteristics of fascism are
Authoritarianism
Extreme-Nationalism
Militarism
Anti-communism
Restrictions on individual freedomA fascist can be defined as
a)”An exponent or supporter of fascism”
b)”Anyone with extreme right-wing, nationalistic, etc. views or methods”Is Emma normal? I doubt it. She’s probably a toothless, haggard, drink-sodden, old maid who blames her own inadequacies on immigrants, Jews and non-white people. She’s probably a regular feature in the parks of Leicester lying on a bench with a can of special-brew in her hand. That’s why she has “lush” in her name it’s a slang term for a drunk.
Characteristics of fascism are
Authoritarianism
Extreme-Nationalism
Militarism
Anti-communism
Restrictions on individual freedomA fascist can be defined as
a)”An exponent or supporter of fascism”
b)”Anyone with extreme right-wing, nationalistic, etc. views or methods”Is Emma normal? I doubt it. She’s probably a toothless, haggard, drink-sodden, old maid who blames her own inadequacies on immigrants, Jews and non-white people. She’s probably a regular feature in the parks of Leicester lying on a bench with a can of special-brew in her hand. That’s why she has “lush” in her name it’s a slang term for a drunk.
Ugo, out of curiosity, how many foreigners are there in the football team you support?
Racism is abnormal behaviour which is why you’re so suited to it Emma. Nobody does abnormal like you. I bet you often get chased by men in white coats with giant butterfly nets.
I know non-anglophone immigrants with a better standard of English than some of the patriots here.
England for the English? Well that’s the Queen of England gone then.
