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Great post Su. However, I am not sure if people who behave without empathy on the net could all be classed as sociopaths. There is a dehumanising element to using the net. I am trying to think of something to compare it to, and as its late and my brain is tired, all I can think of right now is people who steal or mug people. They break into people’s houses and ransack them, or knock them down in the street and take their belongings. They dont’ care about the people they are stealing from, don’t know them, don’t want to know them. It is all very impersonal. If they are later confronted by their victims, face to face, and hear what effect their actions have had, and if their victims become real to them, they are ashamed (or at least that is what we are led to believe). Apparently they are less likely to reoffend. So is it just thoughtlessness? Fun? The misguided view that the people they come across on the net are in some way .. not real people?
Who knows.
I don’t know what happened to you Su, but I am glad that whatever has upset you so badly has not broken your spirit.
It is trite to say, “well its just the internet, its just words on a screen”. But I do believe that if people are too deeply affected by the c rap that is kicked up on the net, they would do well to switch off for a while. Sociopaths and internet trouble makers may not have off buttons, but computers do.
Brilliant Tel :) love the pictures too!
Oh yeah….. that brings us nicely back to mims again.
:oops:
OK, so what happens when you are all nicely back to me? hmm? hmm?
*taps foot*
God I know ! And yet, thats the funny thing when people die, your memories of them are always so vivid its like it was just yesterday you were chatting away with them. People live on in that way, and that is how it should be.
I could have carried on posting links to music all that night, but I had to draw the line somewhere, and it was lovely just remembering.
OK, kenty started this thread with a quote saying that for the first time kids will be worse off than their parents.
I could read all 17 pages, but I elected to read the first few and the last few (forgive me for not being thorough) so if what I put here has been put somewhere else, I apologise in advance.
I think that we have had a boom and bust economy going since the 60s. The economy has carried on growing, but every now and then it has to slide back a little, because a sustainable long term growth is not possible. The problem we are seeing at the moment is that we in this country have very little manufacturing. We export, but we export ideas and people, and not things. That means we are importing more manufactured items and exporting fewer, that brings with it a deficit.
The deficit along with the fact that the world economy (based as it is on “growth”) is in trouble and we are seeing all economies (well most of them) take a downward turn. Each time this has happened in the past, the growth thas been recovered and got back on track ending the recession. BUT, that seems to be a thing of the past and we are being told we have got a “double dip” recession. I THINK that we have just seen seasonal growth, and not a recovery from recession, and so we have never gone out of recession, not for many years.
Unless the way the worlds ecomonies are being run is changed dramatically and until this country can start manufacturing for export, we will remain in recession. This has the very sad effect that our children will not be as well off as we were at their age, or our parents. AND, because of that fact, lots of our children are leaving the country and becoming part of the “export of minds”. The amount of Brits going to say Australia has leapt in recent years and is still going up. Countries that have still managed to maintain good exports and growth are few and far between, but they are there. We just need to emulate them.
haaaaaa @ that poli :)
I think nicknames show imagination and give an insight into the person. People who use their real names could be considered boring!
ahem
*runs for it*
I know there are people online who portray themselves as differently from who they are in the real world. Maybe it is why those people like the internet, they can be something they aren’t. Reinvent themselves. But in most cases, depending how extreme the invention is, they are found out eventually, and the fall out can range from the minor to the very extreme depending on how much people had been taken in.
I know there are some people who don’t deviate too widley from the truth, and can therefore keep their “online personas” ticking along nicely for years.
Does it cause any harm? Ultimately no. Because everyone is aware that people lie about who they are on the net now. In the early days of this site I think people did get hurt, and probably fleeced of a few bob too, but I doubt it happens much now.
The other thing, which is kind of interesting, is why they do it in the first place. There are going to be the obvious things, like saying they are not married when they are, or that they have a job when they don’t, but why do people lie about the little things? My guess is that they start off by lying a little and then to keep the truth from being uncovered, one lie leads to another and then another and in the end, the chatter has to disappear in some way and come back as someone else and start again, hopefully in a more sensible manner.
If people like the fact that the internet breaks down barriers and puts people in touch who normally wouldn’t meet, then we have to accept the downside that there are always going to be people who want to portray themselves in a deceptive light.
bless you Wilma, just noticed this, after I had put up the other thread! Great minds thinking alike there.
*sings along with wilms*
Thank you for taking this thread how it was meant… a bit of a wake.
…….and that was a bit of an in joke between us, about “A Wake”, we were in a pub in cardiff, and we laughed so much we nearly got chucked out of the pub, thank god he knew the owners! I think the rest of the clientelle thought we’d both gone nuts.
I never ever laughed so much as I did with him. He would literally make me weak from laughter, I laughed so much on that occasion that I fell over a wall on the way back to his place! I ended up on my tush in a bush! Ah the mammeries!
And to finish with a power ballard… well sort of
Not Like the Other Girls – The Rasmus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg5JczUwYqI&feature=related
and on that note…. and an apt one at that… I shall leave you all to it.
Wherever he is… I am sure he is shaking the dimension with mirth!
Feel free to add any tunes that I have missed that seem appropriate, I know it was five years ago, but good memories never die, they just mellow. I am sure he would be haunting this place if he was still alive! I thought I’d let him haunt it postumously for a wee while :D
But my favourite Greenday song has to be:
Boulevard of Broken Dreams
