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a really boring b@stard
@slayer wrote:
You are right though- most of it is black on black and just as they do not view their lives as worthwhile, neither do the government
Effective deterrnt requires an entire overhaul of the sentencing guidelines though- you can’t say 10 years minimum for carrying a knife when you only get 4 years for manslaughter!
if scum wants to kill scum that is ok with me
when its unprovoked then the punishment should fit the crime@*Sian wrote:
@kevin wrote:
@*Sian wrote:
@pikey wrote:
@*Sian wrote:
My son was stabbed at school last year, yes it was only with a compass but I am scared, what if the lil blighter had a knife on him, would he have stabbed him with that?
The school excluded the lil shit for just a few days and they had the community police officer in, whoopiefuckingdoo!
Get um young I say, also fine the parents! :twisted:
I once stabbed James Phillips in the back of the hand with a compass during double Latin. I got a detention. I think kids are too harshly dealt with these days, really. I think you and I might have both been in a spot more bother than we were if we had to live our adolescences in today’s climate, Runway.
That may well be true Pilot BUT I am a mother now, my son also got beaten up and left with 2 black eyes, it’s a constant worry.
Children have no concept of right or wrong these days, no respect for the law or elders.i was stabbed in 1982
i’m damn sure people were stabbed in 1882
hardly anything newKnife crime has always been rife in the UK, it’s nothing new, you are right but it is on the increase.
Violent attacks on adults from todays youth is also on the increase.I would part understand if my son was a thug but he is a sweet kid that doesn’t bother anyone, cheeky but no violent in any way.
Why was you stabbed kev?
long story
i wont bore you with the details
sadly i lived
take knives away something will take its place
not hard to sharpen a stick
a lollipop stick could killin other words its not the weapon its the intent
I’d like to drop my trousers to the world
I am a man of means (of slender means)
Each household appliance
Is like a new science in my town
And if the day came when I felt a
Natural emotion
I’d get such a shock I’d probably jump
In the ocean
And when a train goes by
It’s such a sad sound
No …
It’s such a sad thingI’d like to drop my trousers to the Queen
Every sensible child will know what this means
The poor and the needy
Are selfish and greedy on her terms
And if the day came when I felt a
Natural emotion
I’d get such a shock I’d probably jump
In the ocean
And when a train goes by
It’s such a sad sound
No …
It’s such a sad thingAnd when I’m lying in my bed
I think about life
And I think about death
And neither one particularly appeals to me
And if the day came when I felt a
Natural emotion
I’d get such a shock I’d probably lie
In the middle of the street and die
I’d lie down and die …
Oh, oh@*Sian wrote:
@pikey wrote:
@*Sian wrote:
My son was stabbed at school last year, yes it was only with a compass but I am scared, what if the lil blighter had a knife on him, would he have stabbed him with that?
The school excluded the lil shit for just a few days and they had the community police officer in, whoopiefuckingdoo!
Get um young I say, also fine the parents! :twisted:
I once stabbed James Phillips in the back of the hand with a compass during double Latin. I got a detention. I think kids are too harshly dealt with these days, really. I think you and I might have both been in a spot more bother than we were if we had to live our adolescences in today’s climate, Runway.
That may well be true Pilot BUT I am a mother now, my son also got beaten up and left with 2 black eyes, it’s a constant worry.
Children have no concept of right or wrong these days, no respect for the law or elders.i was stabbed in 1982
i’m damn sure people were stabbed in 1882
hardly anything new@pete wrote:
It’s on at the cinemas is it ? thick cunt
you could while away the hours conversing with ……………
@pete wrote:
oh and it’s doesn’t btw
you should go see the wizard of oz
as both the scarecrow and the lion@slayer wrote:
^^^^
Good to see intellectual stimluating debate isnt dead then
What interests me (and blows much of the likes of EmmaLush’s arguments out of the water)- 16 out of 17 of these murders are on black kids; IF there had been 17 murders on white kids in London this year, do you think the press coverage would have been different?
It is very very tragic and the government seem stricken with inertia
the yawn was for petes plagarism
he dosent have any opinons of his own@pete wrote:
June 5, 2008
Knife-carrying youths face automatic prosecution as street violence spirals
Richard Ford, Home Correspondent
Youths who carry knives face tougher sentences under new guidelines to be agreed at Downing Street talks on violent crime today.Anyone over the age of 16 who is caught with a knife will face automatic prosecution and risk a jail sentence of up to four years.
The change, rushed through after a spate of stabbings, could affect hundreds of youths who until now have escaped with a caution or a warning. It reflects growing frustration among police forces across the UK at the number of offenders who admit possessing a knife in public but who are not prosecuted in the courts.
Police will press for the new rule to be put into law rather than just being issued as guidance. They say that this will strengthen the position of officers dealing with knife crimes.
“That’s why the whole House will agree that it is right that the presumption that we prosecute should now extend to 16-year-olds as well.”
The Association of Chief Police Officers had been drawing up the first set of national guidelines to be issued to every force in England and Wales recommending the prosecution of anyone over the age of 18 found in possession of a knife. After a series of attacks involving younger people, the association has now lowered the age to 16.
The guidance says there should be an expectation that anyone over 16 should be charged and prosecuted in court. However, ministers have to decide yet which policy to adopt towards those under 16, as they do not want to criminalise children.
The Government is resisting pressure from the Police Federation, which represents rank and file officers, for a minimum sentence for anyone caught in possession of a knife. It will remain for the courts to decide whether someone convicted should be fined, given a community punishment or sent to jail.
Latest figures from the Ministry of Justice show that in 2006 more than half of all those over the age of 10 caught in possession of a knife received a caution or final warning. A total of 3,330 were cautioned and 2,987 convicted in the courts.
About 95 per cent of 10 to 17-year-olds found with a knife were cautioned in 2006.
The figures also show that since 1997 only six people who were convicted of possessing a knife received the old maximum two-year prison sentence. Figures are not yet available for how many have been given the new four- year maximum sentence because it came into force only in February.
Ken Jones, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers, said: “Recently a worrying trend has emerged in relation to knife crime. We are seeing both an intensification in the severity of offending, and a worrying change in the age profile of offenders and victims.
“We need to send out a signal to those who carry knives for no good reason, that they can expect the police service to do its best to get them before a court.”
However, senior police officers want to ensure that the new guidance will be flexible enough to allow for what one source described as “common-sense policing” by officers.
The Police Federation gave warning that without robust policing, laws and penalties would not deal with the problem. Simon Reed, vice-chairman, said: “We need police officers on the streets encountering these people and making them think they are going to be caught.”
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