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According to Sky News, the reward is for information leading to her return. Some Scottish businessman has put it on the table. I hope the family aren’t involved somehow but it does look likely. The father checks on her – fine (well, perhaps fine isnt the right term considering). The mother checks on her – gone.
And as I said previously, the interview with the uncle on the Scottish news seemed a million miles removed from every other interview I’ve seen with a concerned relative. He looked more like the cat that got the cream than a man whose three year old niece had been missing for six days I think it was at the time in a foreign country. And suddenly, over the past few days, the family are getting more upbeat. In a country where the police can’t legally keep the family up to speed with any developments? Something isn’t right there. Especially after all this time.
I suppose uber was right in a way PB – I was kinda thinking ‘It never did me any harm’ but I WASN’T thinking ‘Where’s the harm? You should relax a bit’ which from the point of view of me and my friends at the time may be true enough to say but then others weren’t and still aren’t so fortunate. It was a bit naive to suggest and I can see that now. At the time though I was in full ‘defense’ mode!
Incidentally, anyone else hear about this £1m reward? Again I don’t understand things like that. As with celeb appeals, if someone can’t just do something out of the goodness of their own heart without some sort of motivation or incentive then there’s something badly wrong.
Believe me PATS, if I didn’t try to put a lid on it I’d still be fighting my corner into the next decade!! It’s best if we agree to disagree cos it’s two very different opinions – I’m looking at it from the point of my childhood while others have the views of concerned parents who will have a better understanding of emotions that I can’t fully comprehend.
Yes, I know we are talking about a three year old. But then it became almost like the rights and wrongs of parenting and how to look after a child of any age. I gave my opinion based on my experience as a child as some of the things being said were very different to the way things happen round here and I merely stated that fact (which Uber threw a wobbly over cos I wasn’t giving a valid opinion of every individual child the world over. Dunno why I didn’t, you’d think I’d know facts like that) I don’t know anyone who doesn’t allow their child freedom (depending on age obviously) Fact. You and others do. Fact. And I’m not talking about 12 or 13 year olds here. Most kids that age are already getting ready to leave home anyway!
We seem to have drifted way off topic and I’ll admit my part in that, I got too carried away with fighting my corner and waging war on those who try to tell me that I’m wrong. Incidentally – you can blame my mum for that! I don’t know anyone who would leave kids of that age alone and we were never left alone. Even if mum had to go out, our neighbours were also our friends. Another sign of the times – I hardly know any of my neighbours now.
Truce :?: And don’t tell anybody I backed down first!
So Uber, you think kids shouldn’t be allowed their lives? They shouldn’t be allowed to do this and that cos there’s dangers everywhere? So what should they do? Do you recommend that they should be prisoners in their own home? The point was that not every kid gets hurt, not every kid gets killed etc.
I don’t know how you read that and assumed it meant ‘It doesn’t happen – what are you all so worried about?’ But again, it’s just one of your assumptions. And yes, I did talk about responsibility. But I think you’ll also notice that I said that I acted mostly without their knowledge, when I was supposed to be somewhere else with someone else.
Regarding mentioning kids wandering the streets – no I wasn’t suggesting anything (but then, we know what you’re like with your ‘then surely you must mean this, that and the next thing’) I was merely stating that where I come from, people are defiant in the face of these things. That’s the mentality round here. And no – I did not say that it is the right thing to do.
Uber, we have sex offenders in this town. A wee girl was even snatched off the street recently and locked in a perverts’ bedroom. We have drug dealers who would happily steal a child’s pocket money and have done so. Are there still kids roaming the streets on their own? Yes. Are there still kids out playing on their own without supervision? Yes. This isn’t 20 years ago, this is right now. So I’m not just talking about myself with some of what I’ve said. Things that you may think are completely wrong are normal around here. I’m not saying it’s right, especially kids out at 2am and especially in the rough areas of the town, but it happens.
And when exactly did I say ‘I turned out okay so what’s the harm’? I remember saying that ‘That’s not the point I’m making’ and ‘Just cos I did it doesn’t mean I’m right’ But hey, you call things as you see them and judge others by your own standards.
Uber, you’re taking my comments out of context. I was talking about letting kids be kids, allowing them that time to mess around and have fun. You’ve taken that and somehow linked it – though god knows how – to child prostitution and coal mines. How does your mind work? I think you’ll find that I also mentioned that common sense should be shown, so how has your mind interprited that as me saying it’s acceptable to leave two and three year old kids on their own? Try getting off your soapbox for a minute.
And in any case, if as you say that what I said was irrelevant then why are you bothering getting the moral high ground? Just cos the dangers weren’t as obvious doesn’t mean they weren’t there.
So, uber, you think kids shouldn’t be allowed to live their own lives? I agree with the common sense part, it’s the part about wrapping kids up in cotton wool to the extent of not letting them out of your sight or allowing them to do things that they should be doing at that age. You can’t shield people forever and before you start saying ‘Well, you’re not a parent etc’ I know parents who say the same thing. Why? Because it’s a fact. That’s what my point was about – that I don’t necessarily go along with that particular idea. Not ‘leave your kids to fend for themselves, after all nothing happened to me’
Maybe I was lucky that nothing happened to me, but nothing happened to a lot of other people as well. Many of my friends have grown up to be responsible adults with responsible jobs and some are even responsible parents so that kind of ruins your theory of kids growing up to be idiotic cos of their childhoods. And before you jump on the term ‘Many’ a lot of those have simply chosen the wrong path. So I’m not unique in that sense, it’s not just MY (as you may see it) point of view that’s coming across. Yes, there is a very real threat today. It’s called the world we live and it won’t go away just cos we don’t like certain aspects of it.
What you also have to remember is that I’m talking about growing up in a time when nobody knew what paedophiles were, when everyone looked out for everyone else.
Sorry, but again some of these posts are alien to me cos of the freedom I and all my friends enjoyed. I don’t think any of us ever walked to school with our parents from the ages of seven onwards (infact, probably even younger) and our wandering off acts were regular before that.
That’s my memories of childhood. And it’ll be the same for all my friends at that age too. As for the example given by ubermilk about the wee girl being hit – I was very rarely careful crossing the road. Was that my parents fault? No, it was mine – I knew I wasn’t supposed to do it but it didn’t matter.
I don’t agree with watching over kids 24/7, not being critical or anything, just offering my opinion. When I was a kid, I was always wandering off to places my parents weren’t happy with me going to or doing things I wasn’t supposed to. But if they stopped me I’d have done it without their knowledge (which I often did anyway)
To me, that’s what being a kid was about. Being bad, mischevous and getting into trouble. Being robbed of the chance to throw stones at people I didn’t like or break windows playing football or anything else I wanted to do of my own accord would have taken away a huge chunk of my childhood. ‘Don’t talk to strangers’ was about as serious as it got.
