[J_in_France]

I have to agree with the last few posts.

It is not now about what happened and how can we help the victims move on but more about the apportioning of blame. Savile is dead so he is easy to have a go at and more and more people are jumping on the band wagon. ITV are loving the chance to get at the BBC.

The victims of Jimmy Savile are becoming secondary to the abuse he did to them in a way to make publicity for those who stand up and try to blame others.

Are the people he abused not being abused again when they are used as the pawns of people seeking to gain a bit of self-publicity? Does standing up in Parliament de-riding the government for what happened before they were elected do anything to help the poor souls who suffered?

[J_in_France]

@Ang47 Wales wrote:

Hello everyone.

May i mention that i agree with what you have all mentioned so far regarding the boards.

However i do go into forum 3 with the same name as i use in here. The boards are better i personaly think for some discussion, and truthful opinions. The actual chat room can be a good laugh but i do tend to find that there are a few people in there who randomly come in and like to show off ( by abusing people or trying to big themselves up ).

Some may agree, others may not, but that is my personal opinion, It is nothing i would not mention in forum 3, as i have done before.

I guess it is like reality,,some i can take to, others i can take by the throat :lol:

( sorry i was fantasising then ),,i dont condone violence,,,what a shame.

SO i personaly think, the boards for a nice discussion ( well i guess it wont always be a nice discussion ) and the room for entertainement, even if it is to realise that we are not all dope smoking fag hag drinkers,,( that apparently is the criteria ) oh yes i forgot,,fat!!! They are the usual insults. (i have yet to be called the names mentioned above ), then again i dont drink or smoke.

Have fun everyone, im just off to forum 3 to see if il get abuse. :lol:

Hi Ang

I like chat to quite simply relax and have a laugh with friends and I hope that people who chat feel able to do the same with me.

The boards I also like because it is an opportunity to discuss topics in a different way.

But as you say about chat there are those who use the medium to try and show off but it also happens on the boards. If you can accept that other people might have a different opinion there can be an interesting discussion but sadly some feel the need to try to put others down and ignore the topic.

[J_in_France]

@terry wrote:

So how many races are there exactly?

What type of races do you mean?

[J_in_France]

For me Joe Cocker singing ‘You are so beautiful’ and how I feel about Helen just can not be beaten – the raw emotion he gives to his songs is incredible

Also Meatloaf’s Bat out of Hell is a song that still causes goosebumps

Mind you there are several other songs I could add to the list

[J_in_France]

So enlighten us all as to who the other person is because it is not Camerons near neighbour Jeremy Clarkson

[J_in_France]

This year we decided to not watch either of the programs and we can safely say it has made our Saturday evenings far more enjoyable.

We know nothing of whom is on either program nor do we care – ignorance is total bliss!!!

[J_in_France]

When a politician is forced to resign because he called a police officer a pleb in a pathetic disagreement about access while every weekend the same police officers face the public who use far worse vocabulary in a much more aggressive way you have to wonder about the standards of society

But do you have to now we are in the blame culture period? There has to be someone to blame for everything that may go wrong it seems.

For example the newly appointed Director General of the BBC is hauled up in front of a parliamentary group to answer questions about jimmy saville that he obviously has no idea about. Why not question people who know something about what happened than try to crucify someone from a different period of time to what happened.

Sadly in my view these days everything comes down to a question of who can we blame rather than a question of how can we help to put things right and help the people who have suffered. It seems at times that politicians use their privileged position as a right to attack others rather than a way to help victims of crimes committed. Cameron was not the Prime Minister when Saville was doing what he is said to have done but Millebrand is happy to try and blame him for it – why does politics always come down to this poor level of blame rather than trying to help the country improve?

[J_in_France]

To me this is a really different subject to talk about objectively.

Where I grew up there was one mixed race family and all the kids were friends.

The day after I met Helen I told my mother I had met the person I would marry. I had no idea she was from a mixed race family and it has never mattered because it is the people that count.

Our daughter was racially abused at primary school because she had a slightly different colour skin that now those who did it would be jealous to have due to sunbathing.

I have no idea what are the correct definitions to describe colour because I have never needed to bother about the differences. To be honest I could easily offend someone through ignorance of the correct political term.

Maybe what John Terry said was wrong but in the heat of the moment some things are said that are not meant as they are taken and why would Ashley Cole choose to defend him in the way he did.

There are times when both sides need to learn to keep quiet so a situation is not made any worse – talking about real life and not forums btw

[J_in_France]

@(f)politics? wrote:

@anc wrote:

I just saw on the news that the owners of a b&b who refused to let a gay couple stay in the same ‘double’ bed have been fined under an equality law.

Now, I don’t normally have much of an opinion about gays and blah, but in this case, I do. It is b&b’s owners’ home – not a hotel chain – and as they also pointed out, it is up to them who they allow to stay, and in this case, as they have children, they felt that for two men to share a ‘double bed’ was against their christian beliefs. I’m sorry, but I agree with them – the couple could have gone elsewhere or had twin beds or different rooms. The £3,500 they now have to cough up in compensation is probably a year’s worth of profit. They are thinking of appealing – I think they should.

I am not a homophobic in the slightest either!

This story sounds similar to the one in Cornwall anc a couple of years ago.
Whether their home was used as a business or not, i agree with you, if their religion didn’t allow it they should be allowed to refuse, i havent read this particular story, but the one in Cornwall stated on their booking form they only accepted married couples to share a bed, as their beliefs meant they didn’t believe in sex before marriage, this applied to hetrosexuals also. They were fined i believe, which to me is wrong it was on the booking form, they should have read the details and booked somewhere else.
I also am not homophobic btw, if i was an unmarried hetrosexual and arrived at a place that didn’t accept that i would respect their beliefs, apologise for my error and go elsewhere.

Completely different issue here to the one I replied to before

If the people who offered the accommodation to the people concerned then I would feel that they had the right to refuse the booking if their booking conditions covered that

[J_in_France]

whatever peoples choice on their sexuality does it do anyone good to try and make fun of it?

Be it male male, female female, or male female does it really make any difference if it makes the partners happy?

Sadly some have to make it an issue

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