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@emmalush wrote:
Slayer and genie would choose the criminals side :D
You have chosen the criminals side Emma.
Nick Griffin (Party Chairman) Received a two-year suspended sentence in April 1998 for inciting racial hatred. His magazine The Rune carried obscene anti-Semitic and Holocaust denial material as well as crude racism.
Tony Lecomber
Tony Lecomber (Group Development Officer). In 1985 he was convicted on five counts for offences under the Explosives Act, including possession of homemade hand-grenades and electronic timing devices. Sentenced to three-years imprisonment.
In 1991 he was sentenced to another three years imprisonment for unlawful wounding for his part in an attack on a Jewish schoolteacher whom he caught trying to peel off a BNP sticker at an underground station. He has a total of 12 convictions.Colin Smith (South East London organiser). Has amassed a total of 17 convictions for burglary, theft, stealing cars, possession of drugs and assaulting a police officer.
John Tyndall (founder of the BNP). Six convictions. In 1962 he was jailed for organising a paramilitary organisation. Four years later, he was again sent to prison for possession of a loaded gun. In 1986, he was convicted for incitement to racial hatred under the Public Order Act and sentenced to 12 months imprisonment.
Warren Bennett (Chief Steward). Supposed to keep order in the party yet has convictions for football hooliganism. In 1998, he was deported from France with over 50 other Scottish hooligans, including several BNP members.
Steve Belshaw (East Midlands BNP organiser. Was convicted in 1994 for assaulting a lawyer in his home-town of Mansfield. At the time, Belshaw combined his BNP membership with Combat 18 activity.
Kevin Scott (North East Regional Organiser). Was convicted in 1993 for hurling a glass at a black customer in a pub.
Alan Gould (Waltham Forest Organiser). Was convicted in 2000 for racially abusing people in a local pub. He told the court that it was the drink getting the better of him.
Robert Bennett
Robert Bennett. A leading activist in Oldham BNP during the 2002 elections campaign, Bennett has served five years in prison for the gang rape of a woman. He has also served seven years for armed robbery and has over 30 convictions in total.Mick Treacy. The Oldham organiser has five convictions for violence, theft, and handling stolen goods
Darren Dobson. Found guilty of racially aggravated assault at Oldham magistrates in November 2001. Fined £300. Connected to football hooligans in the Oldham area, and has links to the nazi terror group Combat 18
Darren Hoy. April 2002, the BNP supporter was sent to prison for 3 months for racially abusing people as they left an anti-fascist rally in Oldham.
@forumhostpb wrote:
Not necessarily Emma. The paedophiles, perverts and general violent criminals might go onto the BNP side for example.
They already have.
@emmalush wrote:
@genie_in_a_butthole wrote:
1/ Yes it is fair, its their right as it is your right to say you don’t embrace multiculturalism
2/ “Sacking” wouldn’t change it, something does need to be done to allow any political party as narrow minded as it may be to air their policies. Maybe a bill in the house of commons.
3/ I never said i wanted an English Parliament, read the answer again.
4/ As said, crimes such as murder, merit different punishments, if you believe murder is simply the taking of anothers life and then you go on to advocate the death penalty, by definition that is murder. Premeditation, motive, case evidence etc etc etc would need to be established in any given scenario to answer that question specifically.
5/ Some
6/ We still manage as before.
7/ I actually said that we should train the unemployed, go back and read what i said, don’t bother, i will paste it here for you.
“I would encourage the training of any unemployed person”.8/ As i have stated, i perceive them all, including Blair, Cameron, Griffin et al to be puppets, as such i cannot answer that. Its like asking me which pile of dogs**t i would prefer to step on”.
1. No i asked you if it was fair for the multiculturalists to point the “racist” finger at me for not liking multiculturalism?
2. The BBC clearly has a group of people dedicated to attacking the BNP. Sure this publicly funded company should be held account for not listening to the wishes of their employers (us)? It took the BBc years to finally put up a website link to the BNP homepage, giving in after mass email complaints.
3. You wouldn’t mind a EP with a british gov?
4. Earlier, you had no problem saying less time for the murder of a rapist, but when its someone close to you, there’s specifics…
5. How enraged do you feel that your hard worked taxes are being spent on criminals to make some of their lives too comfortable?
6. EH? Wouldn’t you prefer to have more foreign nurses, bobbies on the beat etc and how we coped before EU membership, than wasting the billions we do on it now?
7. So you agree with some BNP policy, interesting.
8. What would a party have to do to get your vote?
1/ Yes it is fair for “the multiculturalists” to point at you and call you racist, thats the right freedom of speach affords them, and you are racist anyway.
2/ This isn’t a question.
3/ To vague a question. I would prefer a BP without a DC, but were an MP to ask for a WP, i would agree but only ofter a CCJ was issued to the PB with an express order not to violate the FGW.
4/ No question here just a statement.
5/ Too sweeping a statement, according to the BNP website, Kevin Hughes’ cell is like “third world squalor”, is this just propoganda then Emma? Hypocrites.
6/ Yes.
7/ We should train unemployed people, irrelevent of color, so no i don’t strictly agree with BNP policy. I think you will find these kind of policies in any parties agenda, but then again, you only read 1 parties views.
8/ Have a black muslim haemaphrodite as its leader.
@emmalush wrote:
@genie_in_a_butthole wrote:
I’m surprised you have been abroad and tasted the local culture, you truly are a multiculturalist.
Truly?? I could like 5 different genre’s of music, that would make me a multiculturalist, but not a lover of the experiment…
Remember, with the potential ramifications of ending a multicultural England, other countries could also end it…No more holidays for you, an end to the travel industry, thousands of unemployed decent English people made unemployed…hmmmmmmmm.
Are you always thick? You are by a country mile the biggest assumer i have ever known.
Apparently you believe crime would diminish, prisons close, more unemployment.
:roll:
if you don’t believe in multiculturalism, you are now and forever banished from ever taking a holiday anywhere other than in England, but why would you want to?
You dont like the government, but you still pay taxes to support them…rock and a hard place, devil and the deep blue sea.
as·sump·tion /əˈsʌmpʃən/ Pronunciation Key – Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-suhmp-shuhn] Pronunciation Key – Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. something taken for granted; a supposition: a correct assumption.
2. the act of taking for granted or supposing.
3. the act of taking to or upon oneself.
4. the act of taking possession of something: the assumption of power.
5. arrogance; presumption.
6. the taking over of another’s debts or obligations.Read the definition of assumption, and then look at the beginning of the paragraph “potential ramifications”, twat.
So, you don’t like the government but you pay taxes, no different, unless you don’t pay taxes…SPONGER, now thats an assumption.
@emmalush wrote:
@genie_in_a_butthole wrote:
So he turns on the TV in the main room, he has control of this, he gets to decide when to turn the TV on does he? Wayyyyyyyyyyyy too much freedom, hardly the third world.
Who said he gets to decide?
I can’t see a plethora of posts on here extolling the virtues of the far left otherwise i might.
Oh go on, expose them, you’re neutral. Show the anti-English/BNP on here what the BNP are up against? You could be the new Robin Hood.
“Who said he gets to decide?”
He did – “I turned on the television yesterday at about 8.00 am”.Expose who, there are no posts to expose…can you find threads to the contrary.
@emmalush wrote:
@genie_in_a_butthole wrote:
The swallow represents to a degree migration, and before you pipe up Emma, yes that is open to interpretation, but an interesting contradiction all the same.
You are getting REALLY desperate now, stop it, your hurting with this comedy :D :D :D
“UKIP have collapsed to joke candidate status.”, even though they at least had a candidate running in Croydon.
Stop generalising :roll:
This is interesting:
“UKIP’s local council seat total (made up almost entirely of defectors elected as Tories or Independents) is going to be decimated come May”, yet in the next paragraph of the article it clearly states “Yes, that lurch is losing the Tories votes, but they are coming to the BNP.”, so your ranks are filling up with defectors…hmmmmmmmmmDefectors = candidates.
Votes = non candidates.The poor ukip defector candidates are rubbish, is what the BNP are saying, thus people will inevitably vote BNP, because they ALREADY have hard working decency standing as candidates.
Are you taking angel dust before writting this?
and then continues “…but we’ve welcomed a number of them into our ranks in recent weeks.”, more defectors, my my, a lot of defectors in your ranks.
Voters you pillock :D
More to follow when time allows but i must dash as some little white English fella has just stolen a bottle of milk from my doorstep.
If you are not either white or English, that is what the multiculturalist extremists call racist.
I shall now respond like you often do Emma.
“Stop generalising”
That wasn’t generalising.defector-
a person who defects from a cause, country, alliance, etc.
Buy a dictionary.A voter who changes his supported party is by definition, come one everyone say it together…”a defector”, you pillock, again, buy a dictionary, an English dictionary.
I am White and English by birth, so by your standards, it isn’t racist.
Goodnight Emma Braun
@lil fek wrote:
Agrees with Token and that’s not often lol
Agrees with lil fek and thats not often lol.
@emmalush wrote:
@token_male wrote:
@emmalush wrote:
Thats what we do when we visit a foreign land of culture, embrace it.
what a load of rubbish!!
the engish and british.. are hated abroad!
we are rude intollerant we fight kill and are not a good example when abroadIm disapointed you are rude, intolerant, want to fight and dont show a good example when abroad.
Last time i went abroad, i tasted the local culture. You must be a wrong un :wink:
Im surprised genie with all his cultural loving feels the same way.
I’m surprised you have been abroad and tasted the local culture, you truly are a multiculturalist. If you wasn’t, you would never want to leave your beloved England. Remember, with the potential ramifications of ending a multicultural England, other countries could also end it…
No more holidays for you, an end to the travel industry, thousands of unemployed decent English people made unemployed…hmmmmmmmm. No need for customs as no travel industry, more unemployment. Passport offices closing, no need for them, more unemployment. Other countries ceasing to trade with England, no more tea or coffee in the mornings, no more oil to drive your car, cabbies thus made redundant, more unemployment. An end to importation and exportation, English business collapsing, An end to manufacturing as no raw materials to manufacture from, no more freight industry, nothing to freight, more unemployment, impossible anyway as there is no fuel, more unemployment. An end to International news, more unemployment, TV would collapse as advertising would fail, nothing to advertise only good British Beef. This could lead to an end of the entertainment industry, more unemployment. Of course, very little litter in the streets as nothing to litter with, street sweepers out of work. An end to International Politics as no travel industry, relations breaking down. Apparently you believe crime would diminish, prisons close, more unemployment. All because Emma and the BNP want a white English society in England.These are the POTENTIAL ramifications hundreds of years down the line by what you are proposing, but hey at least its White and English.
By the way, if you don’t believe in multiculturalism, you are now and forever banished from ever taking a holiday anywhere other than in England, but why would you want to?
@emmalush wrote:
@genie_in_a_butthole wrote:
1/ I would defend anyones right to voice their opinions and believe anything they like. I would as a result tell anyone who disagrees with point 1, that it is an individuals right to stand up and voice his/her objections to ANYTHING they are told by “those who run the country”. Anyone disagreeing with that opinion also has the right to voice as such. I am a sincere advocate of freedom of speach including people whose opinions I strongly disagree with.
2/ Personally, i would relish the oppurtunity to see a BNP representative on “Question Time”, because the apparent flaws in the points they raised would be exposed before the nation. To this end, i would actually call for this to happen. This is not the first instance of elected individuals being refused as such. Bobby Sands MP comes to mind, in fact Gerry Adams et al,was, even in news casts, dubbed and even refused entry into parliament, even though fairly elected. This isn’t new Emma and definately isn’t restricted to the BNP. I can assure you though, that Sinn Fein did not receive 670,000 public funding for a party political broadcast.
3/ No, it would be much the same but without cultural diversity, therefore it would, in my humble opinion be worse.
4/ The question can have no answer set in stone, different cases of murder would call for different severity of crime. A father convicted of murdering the rapist of his child should be treated more leniently in my opinion that a man who stabbed a young teenage child at a bus stop for no reason other than he was black. Each case would needed to be judged on its own evidence.
5/ I wouldn’t answer that to you on here out of self-respect. The reason i could not answer question 5 lay totally on your inclusion of the word “luxury”.
6/ I have yet to make up my mind regarding the EU, but on common sense i would of course be in favour of anything not causing a loss, but it isn’t that simple.
7/ I would encourage the training of any unemployed person, but again Emma, you neglect glaringly obvious facts. The foreign alternative is sometimes better than the English equivalent, this of course isn’t always the case, regardless of race, the best person for the job should be hired.
8/ I have seen no one in English politics that would fit that description.
1. Is it fair for those who think yes, to point at those who think no, and say they are racists for not embracing multiculturalism?
2. But, seeing as you’re in favour, should the BBC panel organiser(s) be sacked for not allowing a BNP representative on, especially as the IRA have been on?
3. So you would want an English Parliament, but with a british government?
4. Surely murder is murder? Family of victims dont see the logic of any reason, they usually just want justice, so they welcome “20 years”, regardless of why, and are disgusted if its lower.
If someone was to kill a family member, but had done so because your family member had raped their child, what sentence would you see as right and fitting?5. Do prisoners in your opinion, have it too comfortable?
6. We managed before without any problems, what is the point of belonging to a community that costs us medical help, police on the streets and better schooling etc?
7. You are avoiding the real issue here, and is typical of multiculturalists. Ask the average man on the street, and i’d bet money they’d say train our unemployed if possible. But because this is BNP policy, you will try spinning out of it.
8. Who for you is the best?
1/ Yes it is fair, its their right as it is your right to say you don’t embrace multiculturalism, you can’t advocate freedom of speach in only selected cases. It seems that you want the freedom of speach for a representative of the BNP to appear on TV, but not for anyone who disagrees with you.
2/ “Sacking” wouldn’t change it, something does need to be done to allow any political party as narrow minded as it may be to air their policies. Maybe a bill in the house of commons.
3/ I never said i wanted an English Parliament, read the answer again.
4/ As said, crimes such as murder, merit different punishments, if you believe murder is simply the taking of anothers life and then you go on to advocate the death penalty, by definition that is murder. Premeditation, motive, case evidence etc etc etc would need to be established in any given scenario to answer that question specifically.
5/ Some, not all, depends on the prison, length of sentence, category of prisoner and the prison they are incarcerated in etc. An “A Cat.” inmate in Parkhurst doesn’t have it as easy as a “C Cat.” juvenile inmate in Feltham. A “C Cat.” inmate has it easier in Ford Open Prison than a “C Cat.” prisoner in “Wandsworth. Sweeping statements like this cannot be answered or even made by a reasoned individual…Kevin Hughes apparently doesn’t find conditions “too comfortable” or is he not being totally honest?
6/ We still manage as before.
7/ I actually said that we should train the unemployed, go back and read what i said, don’t bother, i will paste it here for you.
“I would encourage the training of any unemployed person”.8/ As i have stated, i perceive them all, including Blair, Cameron, Griffin et al to be puppets, as such i cannot answer that. Its like asking me which pile of dogs**t i would prefer to step on”.
@emmalush wrote:
@genie_in_a_butthole wrote:
1/ How would this SPECIFICALLY be encouraged?
2/ Where would you want WASPS to go? (“non-religious” would surely include Protestants).
3/ Where would you “invite” an English homosexual to go?
1. Finance, we waste billions on EU membership. We waste gord knows how many millions on asylum seekers etc. We waste hundreds of thousands on minority projects like black associations, the CRE etc. The war has cost us how many billions ££££££ We waste money hirring non English unemployed. We have created a society that encourages people to go from regular unemployment to sick benefit. Just what have those who voted New Labour done to us…
2. The fanatisism of humans and religious belief is very difficult to stop. You would simply have to refuse religious belief as part of our political society, and people would have to understand that mass religion doesn’t suit society. If it got out of hand like now, then you’d have to abolish it publicly.
3. Evidently, sexual preference is something you cannot stop. It would be something, like religious belief, that wouldn’t be promoted.
This whole thing is not easy, but the current make-up of our society is worse. You will never please everyone all the time, but you can work towards pleasing the majority most of the time. The more diverse we become, the worse it gets.
I think i read in Denmark and Sweeden recently, they’ve stopped immigration to asses where they go from now on? Malmo is Sweeden is a islamic melting pot, the police struggle to cope with muslims. They live in areas where poverty has become riffe, and its not because they want it that way, its because the Sweeds dont mix.
Were constantly funding minority projects in England, because they usually find themselves in the poorest communities without jobs, but were told they are like us living side by side as a lovely multicultural country, its farce spin to blag a vote or 8 million…
1/ Not relevent, you didn’t answer the question.
2/ So you would abolish religion out of hand, hmmm, what about all the “decent hard working English people” who happen to believe in Christianity, or are CofE, or protestants?
You do realise that the more you talk, the more voters are losing. You should join the BNP and become a leading voice for them Emma, with your ramblings aiding their cause, within a month, support would dwindle so rapidly, the BNP would be merely a memory.You still didn’t answer the question, WHERE would they go?
3/ So your not going to promote it, so you believe a man or woman wakes up one day and says “hmmm my wife/husband is annoying me, i think i’ll sleep with someone of the same sex as me”, promotion has nothing to do with homosexuality, acceptance is the message not “Go on, be gay…you know you want to”. Your non-promotion of it will change nothing so why cite it in your agenda…pointless.
It seems, your against multiculturalism, but if the BNP were in power we would still be multicultural.
Your against homosexuality, but if the BNP were in power, there would be no difference with the amount of homosexuality.
Your against religious belief, but if the BNP were in power, religious belief would still be here.
It seems to me, the BNP is the wrong party for your beliefs.
ps You managed spectacuarly to avoid answering any of the specific questions, well done, you are a true BNP supporter.
