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12 March, 2010 at 9:32 am #435289
I agree with your point that Mrs Whatever-her-new-name-is is most probably being manipulated by the Media and encouraged to add her voice to the growing howls of outrage.
But I still don’t get it. Maybe I’m missing the point somewhere.
Let’s assume, for the sake of the argument, that Venables has committed some heinous crime. Bestiality with a neighbour’s cat; loitering with intent to use a pedestrian crossing; or whatever.
Does it REALLY make any difference to anything at all if we, the public, are told exactly what the crime is???
Surely the central point is that he is now safely behind bars again, comfortably esconced in his centrally heated cell; having his three square meals a day; and coupled with unlimited oppportunities for consenting sex with any number of other similarly minded male prisoners.
11 March, 2010 at 5:11 pm #434580BTW: I’ve just come across a slight ‘glitch’ with Windows 7.
If you have a laptop and use ‘fingerprint authentication’ to sign in (in addition to a password) this system apparently won’t work on Windows 7.
It works with Windows Vista (all editions) and naturally works with Windows XP (Home & Pro)…. but Mr Microsoft doesn’t appear to have included it into Windows 7 – along with several other tried & trusted bits & pieces.
11 March, 2010 at 5:06 pm #435342Ah Cas …. you’ve sampled the gentle sport of inflaming Chavs with a few well chosen words. Such fun eh?
It’s even more fun to inflame them when they have their mobile phone affixed permanently to their ear – particularly when they are driving!!!
11 March, 2010 at 5:01 pm #435287Reverting to Venables and Jamie Bulger’s mother….. in line with ‘will’s’ request…….
The thing I simply don’t understand is why she is (apparently) so desperate to know what offence (or offences) Venables allegedly committed before being recalled to prison.
Indeed I wonder why the Media have worked themselves up into a frenzy over the same thing.
What does it matter what crime he has allegedly committed? He is now in prison and has had his parole revoked. If he is subsequently tried and convicted, then he will be further punished.
I do have a slight suspicion that Mrs ‘Bulger’ (or whatever her surname is now) has something of a hidden agenda in her hysterical demands for ‘the truth’. Could it be that she is the (paid?) spokeswoman for the Media???
Might it possibly be that as soon as Jack Straw (the Justice Secretary) tells he in strict confidence what the alleged crime was, she hotfoots it to the Media with her hand out for a nice little payoff????
6 March, 2010 at 1:59 pm #435283@will wrote:
so basicalley we are all goin to work to pay tax to get a child murderer a new identity… fckin typical of this country.
Good stuff will. So you’ll be emigrating shortly then eh?
Oh and BTW – where will you go ???
3 March, 2010 at 10:29 am #432178The comments (above) about ‘jobsworths in uniform’ set me wondering. I’ve noticed over the years that parents often seem to have a tendency to pass off their offspring’s yobbish behaviour with the same old tired excuses.
You know the sort of thing ….””They were only joking” …”They didn’t mean any harm” … “They would never do anything like that” and so on. A sort of parental denial of sometimes appalling or semi-violent and certainly anti-social behaviour.
The “jobsworth” – be they Police or another official – are always portrayed as “over reacting” or “picking on” the badly behaved child and generally acting in a high handed and unnecessary manner.
Maybe …. just maybe, the jobsworth in uniform’ is guilty of imposing a standard of good or acceptable behaviour in a public place that the parents seem to be unwilling or incapable of doing themselves.
3 March, 2010 at 12:17 am #434809“A WOMAN’S PLACE IS IN THE WRONG”
2 March, 2010 at 11:18 am #434795I’ve just read you post NCb and I am sorry to hear of your sad loss. Please accept my sincere condolences.
It’s at times like these when living in a different country makes no difference at all to our feelings of compassion and support for you at this very difficult time for you and your family.
2 March, 2010 at 10:54 am #434747@melody wrote:
@forumhostpb wrote:
He was jailed for not paying (or refusing to continue paying) the fines imposed on him.
BUT if you do the math, it isn’t such a bad deal really. He had to pay a total of £10,136. Being given 6 months in jail actually means a time seved of around 3 months. When he comes out, he will have in essence settled his debt to society by virtue of serving his sentence.
£10,136 expunged in 3 months is the equivalent of £40,544 nett of income tax & NI which grosses up to somewhere around £50,000 gross (i.e. before Tax & NI)…… a pretty good income for a pub landlord.
and what about the cost to the taxpayer for his upkeep whilst he is in prison taking up a space that could be used for a real criminal?
You use the term “real criminal” implying that this guy wasn’t a “criminal”.
In point of fact he WAS a criminal. He knowingly and deliberately flouted the law – which incidentally applies to us ALL – and was fined for his “criminal” act.
He could have settled his debt to society by paying the fine, but again knowingly and deliberately chose not to do this. So the Court imposed a prison sentence on him for failing or refusing to pay.
Before anybody gets too carried away by the thought of prison sentences for breaking the (criminal) law as it relates to smoking, remember that his punishment for this was a fine NOT a prison sentence. The prison sentence was for not paying or refusing to pay his fine.
2 March, 2010 at 10:45 am #434825Sitting GCSEs in Year 9 is a good thing IF the child is capable of doing so without causing him or her ‘undue’ stress. The big advantage is that they can stagget their exams by doing some in Year 9, some in Year 10 and the balance in Year 11.
Also if they underperform and don’t get a ‘good’ grade, they can always re-sit the exam in order to improve their grading.
It also offers them an opportunity to take more or additional GCSEs which will greatly assist them when the time comes for them to go on into Tertiary education. Many colleges these days offer places to students with higher grades – those with lower grades often find it difficult to get a place in a ‘good’ college.
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