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@tictax wrote:
*sratches head * reading what ive just read it seams to me that thatcher was more interested in defeating the unions and it shames me to say it if my experience in working on giant nuclear power stations all my life ,it worked , we are in unions yet we are walked all over , i admire the miners , steely , determined, grit , are words that spring into my mind , as for us nowdays , the word jellyfish is more appropiate.i wonder if how we are now is a direct result of what happened then
Possibly so Tictax Mrs Thatcher broke the Unions.
The miners were /are a breed on there own they came from close knit communities, helped each other in times of difficulties, went on holidays together to Miners Holiday camps, each village had a Miners welfare which was the centre of village life. Maybe the determination and grit was something to do with the conditions they worked in. The coal face being the worst ( I did get the opportunity to go down a pit )
I visit many ex mining villages and as Pete says the heart has been ripped out of them.@forumhostpb wrote:
You seem to entirely forget, as many including the BBC, do, that this was first and foremost a political strike.
The Soviet Union in all its glory was alive and fomenting trouble in the West. Scargill and co took their politics from Marxism, Trotskyism and all the other ‘isms’ of socialist revolutionaries. Ludicrous though it now sounds the editor of ‘The Miner’ ran off to East Germany as a political refugee!
It may be that the miners, or at least some of them, were lions, but they were led by Marxist donkeys. Socialist revolutionaries plan civil mayhem in order to take over governments – that’s how they work. It was no different in the UK. It was in effect a low key civil war for the political heart of the country.
There is the other side of the argument.
Bottom line is that Scargill “lost” and the NUM was finished as an effective trade union.
PB no I dont forget, Ive made a comment on here because I was there , and the year long strike will remain with me for the rest of my life. Say what you like but never rely on what the papers or the TV say best to listen to the frontliners .
@forumhostpb wrote:
You seem to entirely forget, as many including the BBC, do, that this was first and foremost a political strike.
The Soviet Union in all its glory was alive and fomenting trouble in the West. Scargill and co took their politics from Marxism, Trotskyism and all the other ‘isms’ of socialist revolutionaries. Ludicrous though it now sounds the editor of ‘The Miner’ ran off to East Germany as a political refugee!
It may be that the miners, or at least some of them, were lions, but they were led by Marxist donkeys. Socialist revolutionaries plan civil mayhem in order to take over governments – that’s how they work. It was no different in the UK. It was in effect a low key civil war for the political heart of the country.
There is the other side of the argument.
Bottom line is that Scargill “lost” and the NUM was finished as an effective trade union.
PB no I dont forget, Ive made a comment on here because I was there , and the year long strike will remain with me for the rest of my life. Say what you like but never rely on what the papers or the TV say best tol isten to the frontliners .
Pete is right, this was orchestrated by the government and a certain member Mr Benn many months before the strike . The main reason was to break the Unions and the working class.
Families suffered much more than anyone realised, it tore families apart. Brothers worked at the same pit one belonged to NUM and one to NACODS one was striking one was working, they couldnt even go to their parents home for tea at the same time.
Miners who went to work ( majority had to they needed money to provide for their families). many were subjected to some horrible crimes against person and property . Those who didnt work had to rely on handouts.
Visit some of these villages in South Yorks, Derbyshire, Notts they still bear the scars and the resentment, once a scab always a scab.
Not only did the government break the unions it broke the spirit of a very close community . I dont think that there will ever be a closer community that a mining community .Oh Pete, can I have a Billy no mates badge please x
Within the next 10 to 15 years this country will have a Muslim leader.
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@woohoo wrote:
Has to be coffee everytime hun.. 8)
What am i doing right now?.. Trying to design my own tattoo..
OOhh WooHoo take your time you may regret having a tattoo later in life
Had to delete my previous post!
Already got a couple Hun.. I won’t regret this one, i’m trying to design, as it’s to cover up an original Tattoo.. Or part of it, anyway!
This lass i know, she’s Gorgeous, has the perfect figure, and she’s tattoo mad.. I know it’s her body, but she don’t need to do it.. I’ll ask her if i can post a pic of her, and then you can see what i mean. Do you have any?.. 8)No I dont have any – as yet
@woohoo wrote:
Has to be coffee everytime hun.. 8)
What am i doing right now?.. Trying to design my own tattoo..
OOhh WooHoo take your time you may regret having a tattoo later in life
