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13 September, 2021 at 2:04 pm #1141784
But before 8 weeks isn’t murder even though the foetus is breathing, has blood pumping through its veins? You are basically saying its murder after 8 weeks
This is what I have said in the past.
I believe the Texas law states it is illegal if a heartbeat can be detected, which is usually at 6 weeks.
I don’t nessersarily agree with this, your status as a human should be determined by the existance of a conciousness in some form, not by a heartbeat. If your heart stops due to a medical condition do human rights stop applying until you are resuscitated? Unfortunately we don’t understand the conciousness to be able to define it in a way that is useful, so I can’t give you an answer to what is right.
Murder? WTF
Yes, the intentional killing of a human is called murder.
Which part are you confused about?
And what about the full term babies who are still born?
If the stillbirth was caused by the actions of the mother (eg. taking drugs) then she should be charged with murder. It is the same principal as if you injected another person with a needle full of drugs against their will, the principal is the same.
Otherwise it should be treated the same as any other death from natural causes.
11 September, 2021 at 6:30 am #1141752Oh hello drac – long time no debate – i look forward to more priceless nuggets from you in here.
The life of this baby is not up for debate.

11 September, 2021 at 6:21 am #1141751Drac.Are you telling me that (and i hope it doesn’t happen to you) that if you were rapped and got pregnant you wouldnt want a termination ?
Not if I found out after about 8 weeks.
10 September, 2021 at 3:20 pm #1141736risk of injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman or any existing children of her family (up to a term limit of 24 weeks of gestation)
This baby was born prematurely at 24 weeks.

Apparently its perfectly okay to murder it.
Lunatics

10 September, 2021 at 3:17 pm #1141735Being raped isn’t a justification for murdering a child.
Shouldn’t really be controversial.
28 August, 2021 at 10:13 pm #1141544Drac reason why it spread from auckland is the guy that had it was up in auckland then went back to johnsonville in wellington thats only 2 places in nz spread to.
What is the purpose of the lockdown?
I thought it was to stop the virus from spreading.

28 August, 2021 at 10:12 pm #1141543Well let me tell you something draculina when i was in hospital last july every nurse doctor even cleaners were wearing masks so you are so wrong there !!!!!
Ok, i just imagined it then, clearly.
27 August, 2021 at 10:48 am #1141527Don’t understand NZs approach to Covid. Why it worked so well.
If it worked so well …. why is the virus spreading?

27 August, 2021 at 10:45 am #1141526UK: 63.1% of the total population of the UK is fully vaccinated (fourth best in the world, impressive).
Those numbers seem to be quite old.
About 88% of people have had 1 dose and about 76% have had both.
Source as of 19th August:
24 August, 2021 at 8:08 am #1141490while yous were haveing high death rate like usa your hospitals were over flowing with covid problems
When was this?


Every time i’ve been into a hospital it’s been a ghost town.
No patients anywhere to be seen, doctors not wearing masks.
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