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The release of a video from 10 years ago with Trump making obscene comments on women may possibly have sunk his campaign. I hope they do. Republicans are reacting in a hostile manner to Trump, who is already falling behind in the polls.
I didn’t actually watch the recording until just now, but I don’t think it will have any effect on his campaign at all. Most knows what kind of guy Trump is, and I don’t think anything he said in that would supprise anyone. Personally, I don’t really even see what was so bad about what he said, it was clearly said as a joke rather than a serious comment about what he is going to do with the woman. I probably wouldn’t find it very funny if it was said about me instead, but I wouldn’t care that much either.
Trump’s comments on ‘Miss Piggy’ and ‘Miss Housecleaner’ are the tip of the iceberg for this obscene man.
Clinton described hispanic voters as ‘Taco Bowls’, so this isn’t something unique to Trump.
I think it shows, drac, that your view of sexism (which I agree with) takes a very narrow legaistic interpretation. For a long time now, demeaning comments about race and sex (think of the way the N-word was used in the US South) are seen as the strongest indicators of a racist and sexist attitude.
I don’t support turning these words into a crime, but such attitudes are seen as increasingly unacceptable, and the mark of a boorish and ignorant person who deserves to be treated with contempt. They should be seen as despicable, not illegal.
In regards to the N word, I dont think I have ever actually said it myself. But i think it is irrational to place so much importance on a word itself, the same meaning can be achieved using a combination of other words. The word itself isn’t the problem, the meaning is the problem.
I sometimes make jokes that some people describe as ‘sexist’ or ‘racist’. It is obvious that I didn’t mean what I had said. The people the joke s were aimed at never taken offense to them, only other people who are offended on their behalf. This does not mean I should be treated with contempt or be seen as despicable. There are of course people who say such things more seriously, but to take offence to something that is obviously a joke is rather rediculous. As I previously said, the intention, and meaning behind a statement is more important than the actual contents of what is said.
[Am thinking of starting a EU thread again, drac. I like the way you debate – so far.]
Sure, but i’m not sure how much more I have to say about the EU until the elections in France and Germany happen, which will influence how negotiations go.
You’re “pretty sure” it “probably” has done.
Very non committal, then again you and scep are trying to play at being politicians, so it’s to be expected.
Well I can guarentee it has effected everyone in the country, I just can’t specify how. If we never went to war then tax money would have been spent on other areas, road mantainance, hospitals, ect. If you use any service provided by the government then it would have been affected by this.
I’m not playing at being a politician, but I don’t see how that would be a negative thing if I was. If you don’t like our debate here, then don’t read it.
None of which affected me
I’m pretty sure it probably has done.
Why
Is Theresa Mays wardrobe so much news?
Any wonder most of us women have hang ups about our bodies and what we look like
JeeeezI haven’t seen a single news story about it, where do you get your news from?
Doesn’t remotely affect me I didnt see any change to my life under any particular American president… laughed a bit more at Bush maybe
You didn’t notice the wars in Iraq and Afganistan we were drawn into, and the increace in terrorism and refugees that resulted from it?
I live in the UK they’re American I couldn’t give a fuck who wins… succint methinks
It still affects us though.
drac,
you seem to take a pretty narrow definition of sexism. . I’ve seen the way women react when people speak to them in the way Trump talks about women. The demeaning talk can be pretty crushing, especially for some young women.My definition of sexism is the same as my definition of racism, which is to say one race/gender is superior to another one, or to grant special privileges based on a person’s race/gender. Well it isn’t crushing to this young woman at least, I don’t know what else I can say on this particular issue.
The health treatment we receive, the education given to our children, the welfare we provide for people who are chronically ill, suffer from mental health problems, at the end of their lives and isolated etc etc depends on money – on economics.
If we’re not clued up more, it’s easy for unscrupulous right-wing politicians to play on our fears that refugees, immigrants, (Jews or blacks in earlier times) are the cause of our problems. And the same goes for populist left-wing politicans in a different way.
Yeah, but refugees and immigrants are actually a cause of some problems, not of all of them sure, and neither are they the only cause of those problems. But this should be acknowlaged.
The EU is a free trade area for 27 countries. Like every other area or country, it has protectionist barriers with other countries. If we leave the Single Market (likely) or the Customs Union (more problematic – worries about this have led Nissan to stop all new investment in their Sunderland plant last week) it’s highly unlikley we’ll have free trade deals with more than a few countries. We would have (I hope) trade deals with many countries to mitigate protectionism.
But ideally we want a situation where protectionism is finally ended. That’s because the trade wars of the 1930s need to be made a bad dream. At the moment they are a threat. Ever since the last world war, we’ve been trying to regulate world trade to make sure that people don’t beggar their neighbour. All round the world now, and Brexit/Trump are examples, the pressure is on for national inwardness and insularity in trade matters. Trade wars are made very likely in such circumstance.
I don’t see why we wouldn’t be able to get trade deals with time, every over country in the world does. I think you have slightly missed the point of why a lot of people voted for Brexit, immigration wasn’t the only issue. People wanted to open trade up to the world, rather than being forced to make deals that work for the other 27 members and never end up happening.
You’re right….what was I thinking …ignore the “why” thread it’s far too serious……these boards do not need anything humorous ……I mean
Why….
did I think of thatIf your post was meant as sarcasm, then I misread it and I appologise.
Three fats huh? I think I am qualified for this thread lol.
Jokes aside, I will have a go at this:1) I currently have four pets.
2) I once ate a whole chocolate gateaux by myself.
3) My favorite politican is Hillary Clintonsoz typo should have said facts lol
i would say number 2 to be the lieNo, i’ve actually done that before, lol.
I’m not sure a ban on foreign investment would stop these institutions. The Saudi govern ment is strongly committed to a Wahabi version of Islam, and isn’t poor. There is a growing anti-Saudi feeling – I’m happy to say – because of this and because of their human rights abuses at home and in Yemen.
I also think that the mosques aren’t the cause of the radicalisation. Many of the radicals don’t bother going to a mosque – many just want to have a bash at those around them who don’t share their poverty and unemployment. Many would have been marxists a generation ago, committed to fighting against Western imperialism; now that Marxism is no longer popular, they’ve turned their anger in an Islamic direction. Prison is a real radicalising force, and that may be where to start?.
Not all people are radicalised from mosques, self radicalisation from online materials published by groups like ISIS is also another common cause. I don’t think trying to ban this would be effective, as people will still find a way to view them if they are motivated to do so. I don’t know how much of the radicalisation an ivestment ban would prevent, but I think it would lessen the general Muslim population’s tollerance towards them.
Not really sure what you are talking about with the Marxism, they are everywhere today. Large sections of academic staff teach Marxist ideas in universities (moreso in the US) and a starting to get into primary and secondary education to. BLM also chant phrases from the communist manifesto “we have nothing to lose but our chains” being a popular one.
I agree with you about the need and freedom to criticise religions, but that’s nothing to do with xenophobia,is it???
A lot of people would clasify criticism of religion as xenophobia, Australia recently introduced blastfamy laws to this effect.
The dangers of xenophobia are shown in the rise of protectionism in reaction to the EU and the free trade environment of the past umpteen years. That brings trade wars, as we discovered in the 1930s.
The EU itself practices protectionism to external markets. I am not really knowlagable enough with ecconomics to discuss this in any detail though.
