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Great quizzing , i had to leave early unfortunately, but, its been a real pleasure doing the quizzes this year with people who have remembered its about fun, and thats just what we’ve had that 3 letter word (Fun!) that can be in such short supply !!!

A big thankyou to Aaron, and continuing support from CL and PD …………..and of course a big…[Read more]

Thank you for your input PB , yes, sentencing guidelines does seem a sensible start x

@ForumHostPB wrote:

I totally share the above views. I firmly believe in retribution and not in redemption or reformation.

To the ‘tree huggers’ and ‘social reformers’ I say this. Don’t speak of reforming bad people, they have no inner desire to be reformed. Instead simply treat them like the criminals they are and lock them away from society…

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@minim wrote:

Its a different kettle of fish when it is minors who are the perpetrators. I think we have to deal with that as a different issue. There are lots of youngsters involved in the rape and sexual abuse of other children, but if we get into that we will cloud this issue which is to bring back stiffer sentencing for adults who sexually…

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sounds to me like a lot of people have some really good constructive ideas, so, put them all down here and we can collate them, and put together something from them, the main subject is justice for children, , be it abuse /murder etc, its about what WE can do?

Ok, so if Rubes and mims and anyone else could pm me with suggestions of wordings once the thread has run for a few days, we can then put up a poll, like i said , maybe it wont be untill after the holidays? i have both of your msn addresses too, we could just get into a 3 way conversation to decide the wording of the thread?

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@minim wrote:

I’ll help too

I will get as many friends as possible to add their names. Only thing i’m not sure of is using real names in this environment. What about a facebook instead. We could set up a facebook account maybe, then it will get thousands of people joining.

We just need to make it a strongly and clearly worded…

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@ForumHostPB wrote:

“Innocent until proven Guilty (beyond all reasonable doubt)” is a fine concept and is one that protects ALL of us against being falsely accused or wrongly convicted.

However, it seems to me that this wonderful concept applies only to the (alleged) perpetrator of a crime. The victim has no protection under law – as the law only…

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@rubyred wrote:

you need at least 2000 signatures for it to be taken seriously..

I pledge you any help.

great rubes!! well going to let this thread ride for a few days, then put togehter anohter thread with clear options? maybe you and I could at this point liaise in pm to put the options together? to be realistic this will probably be now after…[Read more]

Ok PB good advice, so another thread needs to be set up determining this , so will wait and see for a couple of days the comments, then start another thread with clear options. thank you for your input

@minim wrote:

I agree cath, life should mean life… no release for good behaviour, no putting them in open prisons so they can escape…. in prison until they die.

But….. we need a petition or something that we can sign and not something that is emailed round the world forever, a proper one that someone can print out and send in to the Prime…

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@ForumHostPB wrote:

I keep on being drawn back to the inescapable fact, that in the majority of cases (NOT all cases) it is the parents – or their partners – who are primarily responsible for the awful things that children suffer, as we see almost weekly in the Media.

No amount of ‘vigilante justice’ etc seems to provide a way of actually…

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Such is not life tho PB , have you never heard the saying them that shout loudest? see my other thread x

ok so my suggestion is life should mean life for child abusers

@rubyred wrote:

I would gladly sign anything , if it would help. xx

the idea is rubes that we all say what we want to happen to these people, then pick the ones that we know can be done, we all know we cant have these people vigilante style, then, each of us take the agreed suggestions i.e , life mean life, longer sentences etc

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@minim wrote:

erm.. cath, bambi isn’t real

:D actually, bambi might be as real as Jesus

*waits to be struck down by bambi’s dad*

bambi’s not real? noooooooooooooooooo *sobs* :wink:

@ForumHostPB wrote:

I like Pete’s direct approach to ‘paedophiles’ …. BANG !! – game over!!!

The only snag is – what if the person isn’t a paedophile???

If, for example, you were a Sun reader, then you’d have topped your local Paediatrician.

PB? I think we are all guilty of the voice of ‘reason’ , we then have to think deeply, and honestly…[Read more]

@tictax wrote:

im with pete on this my cousins son was murdered aged 2 in 87 and i,d willingly kill the bast rd evn if it ment i lost my own liberty ( the mothers new bf did it )RIP carl

I have to say I am with you tactax, If anyone had touched either of my 2 girls, as soft as I am I would have had justice for either of them, even as you say I…[Read more]

@minim wrote:

Isn’t Black Christmas a horror movie?

dunno mims, i never watch anything scarier than bambi…….ok ok, the bit where his mum goes into the meadow? now u tell me that aint scary :oops: :wink:

@tictax wrote:

sumet cath said i found a lil confusing , u speak of trust u had for ur partner yet u wudnt leave him alone with the child, personally i,d of walked

I meant of course when she was small, and, I think most of it was due to the fact I was the one at home and he was the one with the job he worked around the clock virtually, he was a…[Read more]