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18 October, 2009 at 11:39 pm #419429
Mel you have your reasons and thats fair enough, your entitled just as anyone else is to their opinion.
I too have my reasons, I too have an opinion, and frankly, it’s the overall non-smokers attitude that annoys me more than anything else. Do I invade their lives and tell them how they should live it, no! it’s not my business, so neither, so long as i’m not hurting them, which i’m not! then they’ve no business in mine.
Whether you like it or not, PB is right, the government claim vast sums of money in taxes so while they make all these noises that they think the non smoking brigade want to hear, they won’t ban it completely, they’d stand to lose too much in revenue. I haven’t seen any answers yet, on how they intend to replace that money, if they did bring in a complete and total ban.
18 October, 2009 at 12:06 pm #419625@minim wrote:
The thing is…. this is supposed to be a free country. That means that everyone has the right to free speech, the right to protest and demostrate and the right to follow their own religions. That is why i want to know what the rules for having a peaceful demonstration are. Because something in those rules is biased.
Thing is, it is your right to protest or demonstrate something which you feel strongly enough about, you are by law, expected to do so peaceably and without causing or inciting violence or racial hatred. By it’s very nature, this protest is already racially fired, from their point of view and it shouldn’t be allowed to happen.
Personally i’ll keep an eye on it, I don’t live so far from Trafalgar Sq and I might even find myself there. If they’re entitled to a voice, so am I :twisted: :-
18 October, 2009 at 11:58 am #419623@tictax wrote:
cas last year in luton our soldiers where abused by islamics at a march, the councils allowed them to have , the same councils , same town, refused a march to mark st georges day a few weeks later
I know tictax, I saw it on the news and thought how disgraceful it was. If they don’t like it here, or the laws of this country, then why don’t they just pack up and go back to their own country, where they can practice sharia law and anything else they want to do :twisted:
The local council here said that people were not! allowed to fly the St Georges flag. It had the opposite effect, i’d never seen so many St Georges Day flags flying and thought good!!!! Why is it that WE! have to think about their feelings all the time, what about OUR!! feelings.
18 October, 2009 at 11:57 am #419622@minim wrote:
That caused a stink when it happened tictax, I remember. I wonder what the criteria are for allowing demonstrations these days?
By the way, I uphold the right to protest in public… demonstrations are part of our democratic society, so its ironic that islamic extremists want to use such a well known democratic process to air their views, particularly as they are demonstratiing against our democracy!
In fact its not just ironic, its downright hilarious.
Falls into the same league as their placing islamic icons at nelsons column when its pulled down,,,,,,,,hypocrisy
18 October, 2009 at 10:28 am #409778OMG weren’t they just Tweety.
Was real cringe worthy tv that performance :lol: :lol: :lol:
18 October, 2009 at 9:28 am #409777@tictax wrote:
i actualy felt a lil embarrased for that 16 year old lad , simon was spot on with his critism , wtf was cheryl thinking of giving him that song (bleeding love )
It was diva week, I think most of the songs were too big for any of them, with the exception of Jamie, who did a fantastic job. At Last? Lovely song (okok I know, i’m showin me age lol) but didn’t suit Stacey, although she did her best.
Lets see what next week brings :wink:
18 October, 2009 at 9:07 am #409775Sadly, I doubt they will get booted, not this week or in the foreseeable future :( :roll:
I agree with you though Tictax, the georgie lad, Joe I think his name is, Stacey and Jamie, all in with a good chance, the rest of them,,,,,,,,nahh!
18 October, 2009 at 9:04 am #419427@melody wrote:
My dad gave up on his first attempt…. but then again having a lung removed for cancer is enough to make you give up I suppose. Too little too late however.
Non smoking nazi’s??? Is it too much to ask to breath clean air? Dear God get a grip PB, you are acting like the baby who threw his dummy out of the pram.
No it’s not too much to ask to breath clean air, so in light of that, maybe we should have all the cars and lorrys banned from the roads too, many of which give out just as much toxic fumes, if not more :evil: :roll:17 October, 2009 at 9:43 am #419422Something people seem to be forgetting here is that smokers have just as many rights as non smokers.
Just because you smoke doesn’t mean your any less a person that someone who doesn’t, but the non-smoking brigade won’t have that eh, no were some kind of moronic species that don’t deserve anything. The non-smoking brigade got their way and had smoking banned in pubs and public places. I hope their satisfied with the amount of people they have now put out of work due to the closure of many places. We all knew though that they wouldn’t stop there :twisted: It’s not enough that you can’t enjoy a smoke with your glass of wine or whatever your tipple may be, they now want it banned everywhere, so that the only place you would be able to smoke would be the privacy of your own home :twisted:
14 October, 2009 at 9:51 am #419375It seems to me PB, that unless your going along with the general consensus of people tripping over damp tissues in the mass cryathon for Stephen Gately, your opinion wrong.
Thank god for free speech!! :roll:
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