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11 June, 2008 at 2:26 pm #345015
Unless your name is John, an unusual moniker for a chapette, it’s still plagiarism. Someone else’s work presented as your own. An old trick of yours and, if my ‘dodgy’ recall is correct, the reason you first started directing your spite my way. Didn’t like being found out, did you? Still, your Munchausen syndrome isn’t really your fault. It’s not beyond me to let you have your fantasies uninterrupted, I suppose.
11 June, 2008 at 2:29 pm #345016Ah so its a cunning lets have a slagging off thread :P
11 June, 2008 at 3:02 pm #345017@pikey wrote:
Unless your name is John, an unusual moniker for a chapette, it’s still plagiarism. Someone else’s work presented as your own. An old trick of yours and, if my ‘dodgy’ recall is correct, the reason you first started directing your spite my way. Didn’t like being found out, did you? Still, your Munchausen syndrome isn’t really your fault. It’s not beyond me to let you have your fantasies uninterrupted, I suppose.
“All research turns to plagiarism.” Henry Fenn. Where relevant to any debate, it’s necessary to read, absorb and expound. I’m not so proud that I don’t seek and assimilate the views of those I admire, and John Foster is a man with a finger on my own political pulse. I’ll nick his commentary anytime, and will continue to do so if the need prevails.
And shame on you for your Munchausen accusation. Shame on you.
11 June, 2008 at 3:31 pm #345018Much as I hate to agree with you essie
COUNT ME AS AN “AGAINST”
HATE THE BLOODY EUROPEANS AS MUCH AS THEY HATE US
As for Bass’s comments – all that has happened is that we are an open door for floods of cheap labour .
We will soon be flying the Polish flag !!!11 June, 2008 at 4:21 pm #345019As for Bass’s comments – all that has happened is that we are an open door for floods of cheap labour .
We will soon be flying the Polish flag !!!I thought the Poles had started to give us up as a bad job. We ARE Europeans, so it’s impossible to hate ‘them’ without hating ourselves! Do I detect an English Nationalist????
11 June, 2008 at 4:26 pm #345020Its all a bit secretive isnt it. Youve got the French president saying if the Oirish dont sign they will suffer first, (cheeky bugger) and on the other hand he/they dont say what they will actually bnefit from saying yes.
3 mil people in Ireland, I hope the majority say a big firm no.
11 June, 2008 at 4:53 pm #345021Oh and somebody said earlier before the bitterness erupted that Portugal is now a languishing country?
I know first hand that it is far from it. Unless your in the tourist areas that is. People in inner Portugal can barely afford to eat, and poverty is rife, so its not as good as you have been lead to believe.
11 June, 2008 at 7:58 pm #345022@pikey wrote:
Unless your name is John, an unusual moniker for a chapette, it’s still plagiarism. Someone else’s work presented as your own. An old trick of yours and, if my ‘dodgy’ recall is correct, the reason you first started directing your spite my way. Didn’t like being found out, did you? Still, your Munchausen syndrome isn’t really your fault. It’s not beyond me to let you have your fantasies uninterrupted, I suppose.
you know what pikey, i thought you were one of lifes old fashioned gents, how wrong can a person be??? Esme is a personal very dear freind of mine and i can assure you no ‘faking’ was present, Esme was a very sick lady……. and I dont use the term Lady loosely !!! shame on you pikey!!! :(
11 June, 2008 at 11:43 pm #345023A preliminary or two :
First up, it’s sad to witness some of the upsetting, cruel (and very surprising) vitriol issuing forth on this thread :( and one would hope that with the benefit of a mature, less heated reflection a more temperate, apologetic hue can blossom.
One can hope :roll: .Secondly, it’s been a long source of minor irritation to many Irish that we have “Done better than most” out of the EU in it’s various evolutionary stages over the years. Granted, there has been much benefit, particularly in the 1980s, but this is far, VERY far from telling the full story of how the remarkable success of the Celtic Tiger economy came to be in recent times.
Many would argue that Ireland’s low corporate tax policy of the mid to late 90s which on many occasion flew in the face of and stood AGAINST EU mantra signaled the beginning of our golden economic age. Non EU investment flooded in (particulary from the US) and this together with the blossoming harmony both sides of the national divide began to enjoy, our continuing healthy relationship with the UK (a moderately Euro Sceptic nation) and our own increased levels of modern, secular education all reaped long overdue dividends.
Not to mention the success of Riverdance :lol:Right then…
Generally speaking, I have been pro Europe most of my adult life. Pro EU as a concept. I have (to the best of my ability) supported a large percentage of current EU mandates over the years including enlargement within the perameters of Nice etc..
Let’s face it, yes it has been good to and for Ireland… till now.Sensitive national issues such as neutrality, abortion and a common defence policy are already protected by the Maastrict protocol for the time being and it is my understanding (though I would not swear this as Gospel) that the reduction in the number of commissioners and changes to qualified majority voting were ratified under the Nice treaty as part of the enlargement package.
As such, both treaties represent the best possible deal for Ireland and other smaller member states.Which brings me to Lisbon..
Methinks that just a little too much squeeze is happening. Many may argue whether the Lisbon Treaty is one of the most noble or cynical vision of EU Entente , but surely none could disagree that it has been the most ill -applied undertaking.
Remember, in essence it is a mere re-hash of the doomed EU Constitution draft roundly rejected by the French and Dutch. A document smothered in vague “further down the line interpretations” and obfuscation.
Bully boys such as the French foreign minister preaching predictions of Ireland’s doom if the treaty is rejected do no good at allThe commonly held impression as my fellow countrymen and women take to the polls tomorrow is that the European Union is now trying to create a form of government which, through it’s (and I agree with the Gooner Bird here) utter complexity, it’s vastness and it’s (most damning) presumptuousness, cannot possibly be representative of those it governs.
My NO vote today will not mean NO to Europe : It will mean NO to the threat of a badly designed one.
It’s gonna be tight.
11 June, 2008 at 11:54 pm #345024ahh it was the french foreign minister who said that, my apologies, I said president or prime minister.
I knew it was some twat with a title. :wink:
He should be pulled up for that, its disgusting.
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