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18 October, 2006 at 11:13 pm #5389
Magistrates have fined a man £200 after finding him guilty of putting paper in a recycling sack for bottles and cans only – breaking council rules.
Michael Reeves, 28, a journalist from Swansea, had denied putting an item of junk mail in the bag.
The court was told the letter, which was addressed to him, “contaminated” the other items put out for recycling.
After the hearing Mr Reeves said he had since stopped recycling and feared his case would discourage others.
Magistrates in the city were told under the Environmental Protection Act, councils could impose strict rules on their refuse collection services.
Mr Reeves was served with a warning notice in April this year when he put his bins out a day early because he was going on holiday.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/6058952.stm
Here we have a magistrate forcing a fine on a innocent until proven guilty citizen, nazi style, and all because they assume he put a piece of paper in the wrong place.
Tell me, what is in your cornflakes? Is it some kind of new labour drug or something? What posseses you to vote for people like this to run your society? Is pain something you desire?
18 October, 2006 at 11:24 pm #245179majority rules emma.
as for the junk mail in the bag it wasnt him it was the fairies or the dog who put it ehre obviously.
and i have felt no pain since labour have been in charge at all, i remember my parents being unhappy under tories but they are happy now.
labour has always been good to me
19 October, 2006 at 12:51 am #245180The Judiciary are independent of Government.
Just one of the many things that make this country great!
19 October, 2006 at 11:23 am #245181“for hundreds of years the overriding principle of our legal system has been that judges are independent of government. That means they make their decisions without interference from the government or the executive. Judges also do not get involved with politics and take an oath to uphold the law without fear or ill-favour.”
Who creates the law?
Who decides which person becomes a judge?19 October, 2006 at 5:58 pm #245182Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t policy in Swansea a matter for the local council there and not Westminster? Secondly, isn’t there a little thing called the Welsh Assembly in Wales. So wtf do national elections have to do with this issue?
Emma, you say the man is innocent until proven guilty but don’t you think the guilty verdict at the magistrates court had something to do with establishing his guilt? You don’t see how he could have done the thing he was punished for even though the item was in his recycling bag and had his name and address on it.
You’ve got to be the stupidest woman I’ve ever come across. Can’t we have you sectioned?
19 October, 2006 at 7:53 pm #245183@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
Emma, you say the man is innocent until proven guilty but don’t you think the guilty verdict at the magistrates court had something to do with establishing his guilt? You don’t see how he could have done the thing he was punished for even though the item was in his recycling bag and had his name and address on it.
He may have been guilty, but it was not strictly proven he put the paper with the cans.
Billy Bragg has just said the government decide who becomes a judge. Is this lefty fascist wrong?
20 October, 2006 at 12:29 am #245184Of course he didn’t put a junk-mail letter with his name and address on it in his recycling bag outside his house. It’s a government conspiracy like Roswell and 9/11. It was organized by Tony Blair and the judiciary. Lord Faulkner sneaks into people’s properties in the dead of night clandestinely planting incriminating evidence in people’s recycling waste.
20 October, 2006 at 12:56 am #245185@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
Of course he didn’t put a junk-mail letter with his name and address on it in his recycling bag outside his house. It’s a government conspiracy like Roswell and 9/11. It was organized by Tony Blair and the judiciary. Lord Faulkner sneaks into people’s properties in the dead of night clandestinely planting incriminating evidence in people’s recycling waste.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
21 October, 2006 at 2:28 am #245186@emmalush wrote:
Who creates the law?
Who decides which person becomes a judge?The peoples freely elected Government creates law.
The peoples freely elected Government appoints judges.21 October, 2006 at 11:07 am #245187The people’s freely elected government collect the revenues from all the fines its own appointed judges impose, when applying the laws that the peoples freely elected government creates.
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