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21 February, 2017 at 8:36 pm #1022732
I want to take this a step further.
I’ve never seen you use this sort of humour when discussing migrants and dead toddlers being washed up on shores ; infact I recall you criticising ( rightly), someone who happened to humour that very sitauation.
Is there a difference between that situation and the topic at hand?Where do you draw a line?
21 February, 2017 at 10:53 pm #102273921 February, 2017 at 11:05 pm #1022740I want to take this a step further. I’ve never seen you use this sort of humour when discussing migrants and dead toddlers being washed up on shores ; infact I recall you criticising ( rightly), someone who happened to humour that very sitauation. Is there a difference between that situation and the topic at hand? Where do you draw a line?
Blossom, with all due and genuine respect,
I remember talking a lot to you during that time. My dad was dying at the same time as your mum. It was a terribly sad and trying time for me, and I was getting a lot of stick on here; it was a much more traumatic time for you.
Let me say that in the face of the death of a loved one, there can be no appropriate humour that I can think of. It’s a sombre event, full of deep memories of love and care and feeling bereft in a major way. Humour is impossible. If people made fun of you or me – and while I was in the room in my dad’s final days someone anonymous did come to taunt me about him in pm – or anyone, then it’s reprehensible. I would think that even people who disliked us would step in at that point, unless they lacked all human feelings.
This thread isn’t about the deaths of our parents, though it involves terminal illness, from which they both suffered. That means that the posts are more wide-ranging, and cover a lot of stuff from the trauma of memory to the whole legal and moral question of suicide and beyond..
I could tell you where humour is appropriate, but you actually make me anxious in doing so. I feel that I’m going to be accused of being Alfie, or being part of some monstrous set-up to get at you – you’ve accused me of both of those things on this thread. It’s wearing and demoralising. I also don’t want to get involved in your accusations against other people.
I think the deep insecurities touched off by the awful events of last year are still affecting you badly, Blossom. I’m not going to attack you, but I don’t want to get involved in discussions with you unless and until i feel they’re not going to lead to further accusations and bad feelings.
I wondered about writing that in case it led to more accusations, but you were demanding an answer. That’s the best I can give. Sorry if it’s not good enough.
22 February, 2017 at 3:28 am #1022745It was a terribly sad and trying time for me, and I was getting a lot of stick on here;
Not specifically because of the death of your father Skeptical, “we” didn’t know. So lets put that to bed once and for all. It was because because of your accusations of “right wing” this and right wing that. Maybe and with hindsight you were angry and I understand that but don’t confuse the two issues. I agree with Blossom and said so in the room to her, we us you, can’t pick and choose what is personal or not, either it isn’t or it isn’t, if it is, say so and why and hopefully others get it, but don’t hide behind what others don’t know.
22 February, 2017 at 3:34 am #1022746I could tell you where humour is appropriate,
No, you can’t, no one can, we all view this world differently and my dry humour might not be yours.
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22 February, 2017 at 7:11 am #1022747i asked Gerry about his bogus charity work with the refugees he ignored my question then called me right wing this right wing that wont bring this argument on somers thread hes no better that’s my point and ask yourself what sort of people pretend to work for charitys. wrong uns
22 February, 2017 at 7:20 am #1022748I want to take this a step further. I’ve never seen you use this sort of humour when discussing migrants and dead toddlers being washed up on shores ; infact I recall you criticising ( rightly), someone who happened to humour that very sitauation. Is there a difference between that situation and the topic at hand? Where do you draw a line?
Blossom, with all due and genuine respect, I remember talking a lot to you during that time. My dad was dying at the same time as your mum. It was a terribly sad and trying time for me, and I was getting a lot of stick on here; it was a much more traumatic time for you. Let me say that in the face of the death of a loved one, there can be no appropriate humour that I can think of. It’s a sombre event, full of deep memories of love and care and feeling bereft in a major way. Humour is impossible. If people made fun of you or me – and while I was in the room in my dad’s final days someone anonymous did come to taunt me about him in pm – or anyone, then it’s reprehensible. I would think that even people who disliked us would step in at that point, unless they lacked all human feelings. This thread isn’t about the deaths of our parents, though it involves terminal illness, from which they both suffered. That means that the posts are more wide-ranging, and cover a lot of stuff from the trauma of memory to the whole legal and moral question of suicide and beyond.. I could tell you where humour is appropriate, but you actually make me anxious in doing so. I feel that I’m going to be accused of being Alfie, or being part of some monstrous set-up to get at you – you’ve accused me of both of those things on this thread. It’s wearing and demoralising. I also don’t want to get involved in your accusations against other people. I think the deep insecurities touched off by the awful events of last year are still affecting you badly, Blossom. I’m not going to attack you, but I don’t want to get involved in discussions with you unless and until i feel they’re not going to lead to further accusations and bad feelings. I wondered about writing that in case it led to more accusations, but you were demanding an answer. That’s the best I can give. Sorry if it’s not good enough.
Thanks for your response, but I don’t see an answer to my question in it.
Indeed, it’s not about our parents, but nevertheless about death, as “terminally ill and suicide/assisted suicide” suggests.
As I said previously, to me it’s beyond any logic and train of thought to create any humour around ‘terminally ill and suicide” , whether it’s about our parents or not..as I couldn’t possibly find any humour in a thread about dead corpses being washed up on a shore.
Please, tell me where the humour is appropriate…as I fail to see it.22 February, 2017 at 11:02 am #1022749I could tell you where humour is appropriate,
No, you can’t, no one can, we all view this world differently and my dry humour might not be yours.
Sorry, I wasn’t asked to give a general account of when humour is applicable or not.
I was asked to say whether I thought humour was applicable here, and I answered that I could, but wouldn’t. Whether some other person agrees with me or not is a different question.
Blossom, I won’t answer you for the reasons given in my post, and until those restrictions are lifted I’m not going to answer you. Sorry, I am not shifting.
22 February, 2017 at 2:26 pm #1022750i asked Gerry about his bogus charity work with the refugees he ignored my question then called me right wing this right wing that wont bring this argument on somers thread hes no better that’s my point and ask yourself what sort of people pretend to work for charitys. wrong uns
Why don’t you give an example of any “bogus charity work” I have undertaken Mr Postman. To make such an infantile accusation you must surely have some hard evidence and of course you reported my other thread where I outed you as a racist and football hooligan and got it removed. No one takes you seriously, now hurry up with my parcel, there’s a good little boy.
22 February, 2017 at 3:24 pm #1022755more lies never reported his post not a postman and he never outed me he claimed if you guys rember he was not posting anymore he was going to help the refuges like a lot of drunks they cant remember what they say
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