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@gazlan wrote:
@gazlan wrote:
Meanwhile, as is shown, George Bush claims the video of Bin Laden confessing to 9/11 is without doubt infallible yet we have old Dicko telling us some years later that no proof has been established.
Can our resident ‘ debunker ‘ debunk this anomaly for us i wonder ?
AHEM !!!
Yes? <<<< Clicky!!
@themaster wrote:
Yes? <<<< Clicky!!
Yes very good . . . Let’s call that a slip of the keyboard shall we? :D
The point however, does still stand as you will see here.
Plainly and in direct contrast to the absolute guilt of Bin Laden as described by Bush, When we consider this, we must ask why Bush made such a statement and in so doing question the motive behind this.
I agree that the words of Cheney were taken out of context, however, this in itself is not conclusive proof that he did not actually state the truth of the matter, as the above video shows.
As far as how many people would need to be involved with the ‘conspiracy’, we have witnessed already the power of words and statements made by people in ‘ authority ‘ to sway and control a virtual whole populace. For instance, the simple and unproven statement from Bush regarding the ‘ fatty Bin Laden tape ‘ that seemingly shows the Arab fighter confessing his crime, served to enrage the public enough to then support an attack against a whole nation and cause absolute terror in the lives of so many innocents, a lot of who would as likely not even know what twin towers even means.So while it is perhaps considrered repulsive to even think that so many people can be complicit in such an act, to suggest it cannot happen is being rather naïve. Again,any opinion on this can and will only ever be conjenture until facts show otherwise.
Within hours I believe, Bush and the media had already tried and convicted Bin Laden of this tragic crime, Silverstein already had the money in the bag simply due to the Bush judgement.
True Gaz – but saying that the White House tried to blame Bin Laden when the evidence of his direct involvement was weak is not news to anyone.
We will never be able to say that Bin Laden masterminded 9/11, only that he was the recognised head of a collective of cells, one of which did mastermind 9/11. Let’s face it, even though I disagree with his execution, and think the U.S. acted rashly, the guy hasn’t just been knitting and having the odd fag for the last 20 years.
The White House absolutely exaggerated the evidence to justify attacking Afghanistan and later Iraq, and the wave of public anger they rode on made the situation worse not better. In terms of the international politics I agree that the U.S. was trigger happy and only too happy to point the gun and fire it.
That is not however not to say that 9/11 itself was a fake.
If the U.S. had any prior intelligence about 9/11 they seem to have handled it badly, and that mismanagement may have led to greater loss of life. Someone in power may well have tried to hush up such intelligence. It is however a big step from that to faking planes and blowing up the towers to justify a war. The U.S. has justified many wars for less.
No conspiracy theory is necessary, the actions of the U.S. following 9/11 have been deeply questionable, and motivated by lots of unsavoury things. We don’t need a 9/11 conspiracy to make it all worse.
It’s ugly enough without the conspiracy.
All those examples are on the day, when people were scared, confused, and in the middle of what could have been a warzone, for all they knew. Of course they’ll say ‘explosions’. Get me some CREDIBLE proof, please?
Barry Jennings.
I agree momentaryloss furthermore,
Of course it stretches way beyond just a ‘conspiracy ‘. It is essential the truth of the matter is found regardless. Not least to serve rightly justice, but because the implications of this, should the US Govt. be found guilty of complicity is of a scale unimaginable to every sincere soul that lives and breathes, worse still, ‘we’ as the public responsible for empowering these Governments, are { although mainly through Acquiescence } as complicit.Despite the joviality, inverted pleasantries and at times raw nastiness, it is as simple as in the words of George Bush ~
you are either with us or against us ~ The opponents being of course, complicit and non-complicit. If you are complicit then you will carry on paying your taxes, obeying statutes contrary to common law, ‘stand-under’ what now appears to be
corporate hegemony and justice built upon corporate ethos and so on . . . .It might even surprise some here to know that this is all relatively new to me, but it is something burning me up inside knowing what soldiers are doing in the name of ‘democracy’. Sifting through The soul destroying, gut wrenching material available
that at times chokes me, all the while knowing that those who now Govern this Great country, have sold their very own people down the river.Being proved right or wrong with this holds no victory, either way it is a revolting reality check, something I would happily live without.
The End.
@twistinmymelonman wrote:
they all died, the end :lol:
You can’t “The End” the ending.
I ended it.Once again.
The End.
:wink:Never an ending that can explain why they Killed Saddam Hussein !!! he was blamed for explosives ! That were placed all the way up the towers and the small building beside them.. THEY FELL IN UNISON.. strange that as common and garden multi storey blocks are made with girders to protect a fall.. yet a massive millionaire firm had no protection??
well done the construction firm that made them fall all neatly in one big pile.
tidy job..
@twistinmymelonman wrote:
they all died, the end :lol:
HAH the one and only time it fits well done Twisting, you found the thread to which this belongs :lol: (although Cherriepie DID get there first)
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