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I sail on no ones boat, unlike you obviously crawling round the women with your views on this thread trying to gain favour – bit sickly to say the least. So because I have had a disagreement with Norfolk in the past I should disagree with everything he says? That’s a bit pathetic to say the least. Pick up on one point on this thread that I have made where you can prove me wrong.
Lol. So your logic is my views of female tennis and sport it general is because I am “crawling around women”. You just don’t get it do you, not all men share your prehistoric views. I don’t need to disprove anything. You have already openly stated that in mixed doubles women are the weakest link and alluded they are therefore carried by men. Quite frankly blatant sexism. You clearly do not understand the nuances of mixed doubles. You clearly view sport and judge it in exactly the same way as your sidekick. It really is as simple as that. In my opinion, which of course carries no more weight than yours or anyone elses.
There’s nothing sexist about stating biological facts… what part of women are biologically physically weaker and slower than men can’t you get your head around?
Name a sport which can be measured in quantifiable measurements such as time/distance/postions where women beat men instead of vague references to my statements being inaccurate.
Snooker, pool, and darts are sports that I would expect women would be able to play equally as well as men, but they are things that women don’t seem to have much interest in playing so it would be hard to find numbers for this.
Norfolk stated men are superior than women in ALL sports. Then moved the goal posts as to what that sport actually entailed. Gymnastics, shooting, equestrian, ice skating no doubt more and all Olympic sports where men are NOT superior at all.
As drac as said , women are incapable in gymnastics in many disciplines of performing the same routines as men. This is evidenced by the different olympic routines which are more power orientated for the latter. Using equestrian as an eg which amounts to sitting on a horse as evidence of the two sexes being equal is scraping the barrel to say the least. Ice skating is as female orientated as snooker is to males so an unfair comparison- even then there is no data to show women can compete with and beat men. The reality is in practically every sport there is, men out perform women whether people like Arc accept it or not.. there’s no point continually arguing the earth is flat when the evidence shows otherwise to try to win an argument that’s unwinnable.
Drac didn’t say anything other than post her googled information. If and when she posts the links I will read them and then I will give my own opinion. Don’t jump on her argument just because it is far more persuasive than yours. OK.
Edit. Oh and btw the way, you have already stated men are superior in EVERY sport, please don’t slyly change it to “practically every sport” now. Thanks.
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The BBC commentator and former tennis player Andrew Castle has risked sparking another Wimbledon sexism row after making comments about the appearance of the girlfriend of Brit-of-the-moment Marcus Willis. The broadcast remarks triggered a wave of outrage on social media, including some who labelled the broadcaster “creepy” and “sexist”. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jun/30/bbc-wimbledon-andrew-castle-marcus-willis-girlfriend-sexism Swedish swimmer Sarah Sjostrom just broke her own world record in the 100m butterfly? Great! When, NBC wanted to know, would she do the samba on the beach? While the sexism has been particularly noticeable on American TV, the BBC is not exempt. Its commentator attracted ire when he called the Judo match in which Majlinda Kelmendi won Kosovo’s first-ever medal a “catfight”. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/olympic-sized-perverts/ Last weekend, Indian Wells tournament CEO, Raymond Moore, sparked controversy when he described female tennis players as riding “on the coat-tails of the men”. “If I was a lady player,” he remarked to BBC, “I’d go down every night on my knees and thank God that Roger Federer and Rafa Nadal were born, because they have carried this sport. They really have”. Earlier today, Moore left his position over the comments. https://i-d.vice.com/en_gb/article/serena-williams-shuts-down-sexist-tennis-commentators Andy Gray has been sacked by Sky Sports over his string of shameful sexist outbursts. The TV pundit was suspended after his controversial comments aimed at female assistant referee Sian Massey.
The incoming BBC head of news and current affairs has said that John Inverdale’s comments about Wimbledon champion Marion Bartoli’s personal appearance were wrong. James Harding said Inverdale had to take ownership of what he said and apologise to the tennis player. The BBC has received almost 700 complaints in the hours after the veteran Inverdale said Bartoli “was never going to be a looker” on Radio 5 Live ahead of the game. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jul/09/john-inverdale-marion-bartoli-bbcTumaini Carayol says there is a sexism issue at Wimbledon: the women lighting up the game still don’t get the credit or recognition that their efforts deserve.
<p class=”storyfull__paragraph”>”If tournament directors or whatever, referees, think this way… ” started Dinara Safina during the 2009 edition of Wimbledon. She trailed off, but there was nothing else she needed to say. On the fourth day of that Championships, Safina had been moved to Court 2 to facilitate a young Caroline Wozniacki´s 6-0 6-4 Centre Court drubbing of Maria Kirilenko, who had featured in the Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition earlier that year.</p> <p class=”storyfull__paragraph”>http://www.eurosport.co.uk/tennis/wimbledon/2015/wimbledon-treats-stars-of-the-women-s-game-as-disposable_sto4813387/story.shtml</p><p class=”storyfull__paragraph”>:whistle:
:whistle:</p>All of this quoted article proves nothing, you are taking a few ignorant comments and using it as evidence that women are equal to men physically in sports and should get paid the same for competing in matches that last on average 60% of the time. Where is the evidence that women can beat men in the sports you have mentioned and what has Andy Gray got to do with anything? Of course sexism exists, but it also works both ways and have listened to many females lambasting the male species with “they are all bastards” type views over the years which is irrelevant to what we are discussing. Racism also exists , so if black players were told they could only play 3 sets instead of 5 as they are so apparently “persecuted” that would be acceptable as well and anyone saying it was unfair would be racist as anyone on here is sexist for their views?
The same could apply for formula one racing.. there are no women able to compete against men. Is this down to inferior hand to eye co ordination or lack of numbers- impossible to say.
I openly laugh at you Norfolk, really I do, I think that particular issue has been well publicized recently and the news obviously did not reach Norfolk did it. I also laugh how you constantly move the goal posts to suit your argument. It really is pointless trying to have a grown up debate with you, isn’t it. Which I knew anyway from past experience so silly me for thinking otherwise.
You talk about “grown up debates” but I’m not the one posting silly smiley icons at the end of every passage designed to antagonise. I’m not the one that can’t back up my points with facts instead of some wishy washy ideological notion that both sexes are equal in sport when all the evidence points to the contrary. As usual you are losing the debate and resorting to vague cliches to hide your embarrassment which is a common trait I’ve noticed from you.
Actually it was posted to your buddy who made the claim that “even commentators say it”, yes they do say it all right, all men of course. Secondly I am still laughing how you cherry pick the sports men dominate then argue (totally contradicting yourself) that some sports are more suited to women so they don’t count. Olympic sports I might add.
Rather amusing.
Name a sport which can be measured in quantifiable measurements such as time/distance/postions where women beat men instead of vague references to my statements being inaccurate.
Snooker, pool, and darts are sports that I would expect women would be able to play equally as well as men, but they are things that women don’t seem to have much interest in playing so it would be hard to find numbers for this.
Norfolk stated men are superior than women in ALL sports. Then moved the goal posts as to what that sport actually entailed. Gymnastics, shooting, equestrian, ice skating no doubt more and all Olympic sports where men are NOT superior at all.
As drac as said , women are incapable in gymnastics in many disciplines of performing the same routines as men. This is evidenced by the different olympic routines which are more power orientated for the latter. Using equestrian as an eg which amounts to sitting on a horse as evidence of the two sexes being equal is scraping the barrel to say the least. Ice skating is as female orientated as snooker is to males so an unfair comparison- even then there is no data to show women can compete with and beat men. The reality is in practically every sport there is, men out perform women whether people like Arc accept it or not.. there’s no point continually arguing the earth is flat when the evidence shows otherwise to try to win an argument that’s unwinnable.
Drac didn’t say anything other than post her googled information. If and when she posts the links I will read them and then I will give my own opinion. Don’t jump on her argument just because it is far more persuasive than yours. OK.
Edit. Oh and btw the way, you have already stated men are superior in EVERY sport, please don’t slyly change it to “practically every sport” now. Thanks. There isn’t a single sport that doesn’t involve an animal or machine where women outperform men… you clearly can’t read evidently. You then use equestrian and shooting as examples- last time I checked equestrian involves sitting on an animal which does all the work or perhaps you think the contestants crawl around on all fours which seems to be your intent given your crawling to carry favour on here.
You talk about “grown up debates” but I’m not the one posting silly smiley icons at the end of every passage designed to antagonise. I’m not the one that can’t back up my points with facts instead of some wishy washy ideological notion that both sexes are equal in sport when all the evidence points to the contrary. As usual you are losing the debate and resorting to vague cliches to hide your embarrassment which is a common trait I’ve noticed from you.
Lol. I post smiley faces apparently to deliberately antagonize you, ha ha, almost as funny as “crawling to women”.
Enjoy your day.
Actually it was posted to your buddy who made the claim that “even commentators say it”, yes they do say it all right, all men of course. Secondly I am still laughing how you cherry pick the sports men dominate then argue (totally contradicting yourself) that some sports are more suited to women so they don’t count. Olympic sports I might add. Rather amusing.
I don;t have or want “buddys ” online and as stated earlier by Reason people can disagree or agree on various issues . I don’t think ” oh there is person x” so that means I must disagree for life or vice versa.. I don;t do online cliques and post my views regardless of what others think. It seems to be a common trait online where people take a stance based on the person rather than the view, one I don’t share. If someone posts something I agree with or disagree with, it doesn’t matter if I “get on with them or not” but clearly you prefer a playground type mentality where once divided it means all views must come down on the right side… I grew out of that mode of thinking 20 years ago yet when you lose a debate you resort to the usual tactic of arguing the poster rather than the person which is evident again due to another demolition where I’m afraid you have been found wanting.
It’s only complete ignorance from someone as intrinsically stupid as you that would revert to ” sexist ” comments when stating every world record for men is faster than women which is a fact. You need to educate yourself on human biology instead of coming out with this diatribe of crap
Wait who typed this to a woman, me, oh wait no it was you.
Oh dear.
Ta ra.
It’s only complete ignorance from someone as intrinsically stupid as you that would revert to ” sexist ” comments when stating every world record for men is faster than women which is a fact. You need to educate yourself on human biology instead of coming out with this diatribe of crap
Wait who typed this to a woman, me, oh wait no it was you. Oh dear. Ta ra.
I don’t crawl to women or treat them any differently to men… maybe you think they are frail creatures we should all pander to online like children but I don’t share that view. Anyone calling a poster sexist because of a point that men are superior to women in sports due to biological differences between the two genders is intrinsically stupid and I stand by my comments.
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