Where does the mindset come from?

@sharongooner wrote:

Why say one word Uber when there are just so many?? :lol: :wink: Your lil fingers must get sore my friend!

Well I have to keep em well exercised and in peak condition Shaz incase I get lucky, same reason I do press ups with my tongue hehe :wink:

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But you are right, even tho you dont even realise it lol :wink: , the ability to discuss things in depth, reason logically and outline and communicate points, perspectives, reasoning and process even on discussion boards is nowadays in our “MacSociety” the exception rather than the rule. Where there used to be scrutinised supported viewpoints now there are chit chatty shadows of belief and mindset with sand rather than concrete foundations

But its still a good giggle nonetheless, just on a much more low brow level is all :)

do you actually believe half of what you type ubermik?

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I’m still torn on what i think about this because there is so many different rapes that happen there is the pure violent power control rapes and there is the drunk (both) parties rapes, i do agree with uber on alot of his points tbh and yes i read it all (AR me ) lol but at the same time purely violent rapes which often result in death are a completely different to some others and there is no part blame what so ever in this case the attacker/killer is to be blame, they are quite obviously deeply disturbed, the other women and men drunk alone after pub kick outs etc yes a women does need to take responsibility for her actions also the way she dresses how she gets home and so on she shouldnt put her self in these situations but nor should a man assume he can “help himself” but minim is right some rapes are violent resulting very often in death and women are not dressed provocatively , they are not coming home late at night alone, people are raped during the day, ordinary propery dresssed people, in their homes and so on that is NOT their fault but the fault of the violent abuser alone.

That was actually my point in part, so many things nowadays are overly simplified, not just by the media, but less forgiveably by so called “professionals” often merely to aid them pushing a politically alligned or social agenda by swaying the less knowledgeable majority into believeing what is needed for them to believe

Rape is one such instance, its dressed up as every single rape thats ever happened since the dawn of mankind being for one single and solitary reason and desire, that in no cases (except the obviously politically and socially allowable ones like it being a prostitute) is the woman to EVER be scrutinised for her behaviour or choices leading upto the attack

Those views in my opinion not only lack depth or understanding but also contribute towards increasing the amount of rapes by putting such silly nonsensical ideas into young womens heads as they not simply “should” be able to do, wear and be where they want when they want but that they OUGHT to

The subtlety most people are conditioned to miss with the clothing issue is one of subjectivity rather than broad generalisation

Someone who WOULD rape someone in the pure definition of the word is in some way or other not exactly wired as society would like them to be even tho that is often merely a missassociation rather than some deep mental illness

Despite people being able to easily agree that if someone DOES rape someone they arent what would be termed as “normal” that acceptance gets very conveniently ignored when certain feminist hot potatoes such as personal responsibility, behaviour or clothing crops up

Starting with quite obvious facts, female clothing CAN quite often be extremely sexual in nature and any woman who claims otherwise is either lying or retarded, sexually appealing or revealing clothing DOES have certain almost unnavoidable associations to the POSSIBLE character, hungers and aims of the woman, behaving in an overtly sexually suggestive and flirtacious manner also has the same POSSIBLE associations too

And any sexual stimulous DOES turn a man on who is turned on BY that sexual stimulous whether it be short skirts hair with the “just shagged” look, low cut tops, oversized udders or anything else

And thats just NORMAL men who might be excited by such things but take it no further, or whom would perghaps try to suss out whether a womans “up for it” attire and/or behaviour is actually a reflection of a real yearning in her groin gash, and if not they will leave it there and target the next woman they see and like who also seems like she is POSSIBLY advertising her wares to get a simon or some other pieman to stick in a thumb or something more substantial

When not discussed in relation to rape not many people would disagree with that synopsis of very ordinary natural social networking with the intent of getting laid and clothing and behaviour DO play a massive part in not only getting a woman noticed but also in the type of approach a male will make which is whether admitted or not and whether its wanted to be carried further or not IS part of the reason women do that either consciously or subconciously

Lets suppose for a moment that it was commonly known that not a single man or woman on the planet found skimpy clothes or bare flesh sexy?, how many of these women would still wear them if that were the case even if designers filled the shops with them? (honestly!!)

So that aside when looked at in a dating sense, the end result is that whether acted on or not such sights of delights WILL in most men cause some labouring towards thoughts of sex, attractiveness and the like even if its not acted on there and then or at all as a result

But it IS the most common triggered train of thought, and women KNOW that

So, back to our one type out of MANY types of rapist

The type who is perhaps a bit socially dysfunctional, cant approach women, rarely gets laid and is usually frustrated on a night out

He will most probably still notice the same sexually alluring sights, he will still have that trigger the same sexual thoughts, wants and longings AND he is most probably drinking

Not a good combination when he is a bit loopy too

So then often via a complex method of “rationsalisation” (albeit often without any actual rationality whatsoever) decides that he will if seen rape someone, or in many cases doesnt actually plan it, but just happens to be walking along a deserted street or area, still turned on and frustrated and sees a solitary, clearly drunk and wobbly woman dressed (in his mind) to get laid and BAM!!

Infact THAT woman might not even be dressed that provocatively, but the mindset, urges and needs in play HAVE already been triggered by women who were or at the very least helped along by them

But, we are expected to buy into the notion that someone who would rape someone is also magically somehow totally devoid of ANY standard human male associations, reactions, triggers or rationales? lol

Does anyone REALLY believe that when scrutinised?

IF they were THAt different they would be noticeable, they would stand out, they would all be identical or very similar psychological types

None of that is the case, they are varied and vastly different

And even that scenario of rape can then be subdivided into various subtle differences and clearly different types of the act

But people regularly wheel out the “but some women are raped in their home”, well so what?

Thats like saying someone killing someone in self defence is no different to premeditated murder purely on the basis of them killing someone

Similarly an opportunist rape and a premeditated rape ARE different types of rape, each with a mass of various reasons, triggers, contributing and driving forces and rationales or sexual interests behind them

NOT the “one explaination fits all” bull crap were expected to believe

(in my opinion of course :))