What does "freedom" mean to you?

@panda12 wrote:

Freedom has many “facets”

I don’t believe there is any such thing as true freedom for any race of people because we are all “slaves” to some form of economic, social or political system whether it be tribal, capitalist, communist or barter, Islamic, Jewish, Christian, matriarch, patriarch or the nuclear family. or whatever.

I totally agree

As for my personal look at it, i’ll get back to you on that, i really cant define it just now because of the above. In what you say Jen Jen is that freedom or is it happiness? and is that what personal freedom indeed is, happiness ? i really dont know. But despite with agreeing with some of what all of you say including Gazlan, i can’t see how any of it is true freedom, even Gazlan is enslaved in his own definitions despite the free sounding spirit i think he is trying to portray, i may rethink this whole thing but the way i sit atm, the only person likely to be free is a man or woman who lives away from all society and it’s ties. But hey even Gizzly Adams had a bear to answer too lol … as i said .. i’m going to read replies and think on this some more.

@jen_jen wrote:

@(f)politics? wrote:

In what you say Jen Jen is that freedom or is it happiness? and is that what personal freedom indeed is, happiness ?

Having spent years with people around me who tried to change me and make me someone I wasn’t, and of trying to fit into a world and path that wasn’t right for me because of other peoples’ expectations, I’d say it’s freedom to be who I truly am and to follow the path that is right for me, that to me is personal freedom, and a by-product of that freedom is happiness :D

And quite frankly I’m getting tired of being told I’m deluded, that I’m trapped, that I’m sickeningly content and should open my eyes, etc. etc. ad finitum just because I don’t fit into their personal view of the world or see the world like them.

I wasnt saying you were deluded or trapped or you should open your eyes, i dont know what my personal view of what defines “personal freedom” is, i just thought maybe hapiness is freedom or freedom is happiness i’m not sure how else to define it right now.

Freedom is not having to post my life history on the internet. We’re so not free in this land at this time.
Freedom is a word like many others. Like flotsam, or haberdashery.

There is a relative degree of liberation that we can all aspire to.

@gazlan wrote:

And quite frankly I’m getting tired of being told I’m deluded, that I’m trapped, that I’m sickeningly content and should open my eyes, etc. etc. ad finitum just because I don’t fit into their personal view of the world or see the world like them.

Katchinnnnnnggggggg :lol:

Shush your gums you, and tell in “simple words” nothing political or complicated what you see as your personal freedom, im genuinely not sure my self i need some inspiration from others

ya cant have true freedom gaz, if ya rely on the dollar from dole money either.. your as part as the establishment as anyone.