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Well done to mr farage and the brexit party.
Happy bank holidays leftys.
Great results in northern england for the brexit party.
Labour getting 15 per cent.
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actually, the results aren’t as good for the Brexit party as they make out.
The BBC has been trumpeting that Brexit takes the lion’s share of the vote in their headlines
but…
their political correspondent points out that the Remain parties got more votes.
It’s the percentages that count.
Labour must now change to give a clear message on Brexit. If they don’t, they’ll find that events take over as the middle ground empties.
Turnout isn’t that high, so only a headline-skimmer would assume that the Brexit party speak for the country.
They really don’t!
Lol not a good result.
The party was formed 4 weeks ago roughly and they thrashed labour!
If thats not a good result i dont know what is.
Yes, congratulations to Farage and the Brexit Party, another two fingers to the liberal elite.
However, Milkman just like his mentor Flashman doesn’t appear to understand this isn’t about “left” or right” and in fact a 1/3 of labour voters voted Brexit, including the major players within the union movement.
Tommy Robinson, who is far right, came nowhere and quite rightly was laughed out the building.
As for Flashman, blimey he is all over the place again, already preparing his ‘meme’s’ for the next few months.
Brexit again got the highest percentage of the vote. Brexit Party, Labour, the Tories and UKIP etc all currently support Brexit, around 51% if I recall from last night.
Turnout isn’t that high, so only a headline-skimmer would assume that the Brexit party speak for the country.
This is the man who has been stating for years “the young should decide their future” etc while he deceitfully pushed for another referendum. Again, when push came to shove, the liberal class did not vote to save their beloved EU and young people were again too lazy to get off their arses and vote.
This must be a political discussion………wait for milky and GE to attack each other while sceppers cowers in the back ground….LMAO RATF PML
Lol not a good result.
The party was formed 4 weeks ago roughly and they thrashed labour!
If thats not a good result i dont know what is.
Actually I said it’s not as good a result as is being claimed.
Stand aside from your wishes and look at it. It’s not a football match, it’s one move in a dynamic political game.
The brexit party’s success is down to leavers so disillusioned wiht the faileure to elave that they turn to the symbol of brexit – farage. Tories like Ann Widdecomb and people like Clair Fox with an ugly political record are elected, not because the cvoters want to end abortion or to legalise child pornography, but because they are standing on the Farage ticket.
The centre ground is being emptied, as the Brexit party and the Remain parties surge ahead. It’s becoming more and more a conflict between a no-deal Brexit and a people’s Vote, and both are roughly equal – in fact Lib Dems and Greens have more votes than the Brexit party in an election which saw an increased turnout in Remain areas.
Labour was hammered. Not as badly as the Tories, but they weren’t expecting to be hit so badly. There are many signs of a shift in Labour’s policy now – MacDonnell is calling more and more explicitly for a second referendum, joining big unions like Unison and Usdaw. If McCluskey and Corbyn continue to call for a soft Brexit, they are in danger of being overtaken by events. They’re aware that very good Labour MEPs are unseated by Remainers.
The Brexit party took its votes mainly from the Tories. Labour lost some votes to Brexit, but mainly to Remainers. John Curtice, the best and most impartial of the pollsters, reafffirmed this at lunchtime.
Stand back rather than play twist games with the numbers.
The Brexit party’s victory on the Right is very important – it places irresistible pressure on the Tories to pick a hard Brexit PM, and that means it’s very, very likely we’ll be going for a No deal brexit on 31st October. Borish has called this an existential crisis for the Tory party, and claims that if they can’t get out of the EU in October then a political catastrophe awaits for the Right.
Labour may be split on Brexit, but not on a no-deal Brexit. They’ll oppose fully, and a major crisis awaits in late October.
You can believe this is a Brexit party landslide if that makes you feel happy, but it’s not. I wish it were a reamin landslide, but it’s not. The two sides of No-Deal vs People’s Vote are equal, with Remain being slightly higher.
What matters is whether we leave the EU or not. A vote on a 37% turnout isn’t going to decide that by itself, but the momentum for both no-deal and people’s Vote are becoming irresistible. At the moment, October looks to be the crunch point. Hallowe’en indeed,!
However, Milkman just like his mentor Flashman doesn’t appear to understand this isn’t about “left” or right” and in fact a 1/3 of labour voters voted Brexit, including the major players within the union movement.
What a bizarre mind. What a bizarre analysis.
I single out just this little nugget, claiming that the no-deal supporting milky is my protegé
I would rather trust John Curtice, who has established himself as one of the most reliable pollsters in British politics, than Sherlock’s rah-rah games with figures.
However, Milkman just like his mentor Flashman doesn’t appear to understand this isn’t about “left” or right” and in fact a 1/3 of labour voters voted Brexit, including the major players within the union movement.
What a bizarre mind. What a bizarre analysis.
I single out just this little nugget, claiming that the no-deal supporting milky is my protegé
I would rather trust John Curtice, who has established himself as one of the most reliable pollsters in British politics, than Sherlock’s rah-rah games with figures.
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Coming from the political guru who claims the Lib Dems are not centrist, lol.
I agree John Curtice gets it right more times than wrong, unlike you who sneered when I sposted his analysis after the referendum. I am also not interested in your shitty links Flashman, no more than you are interested in mine.
Quoting word for word Flashman, what you read in the FT, is what it is, bullshit at this point in time, until it is analyzed in more depth over the coming weeks and months. You always set things in stone before you know all the facts. Black and white, simplistic garbage. You did it prior to the actual referendum and you are still doing it now.
The result was around the same as the referendum, no matter how you clumsily try and distort it now. Voters on both sides are entrenched in their views, precisely because of people like you.
None of your predictions have been accurate thus far, and quoting a pollster a few hours after the vote pretty much sums you up Flashman.
It will all boil down to who is elected Tory leader and until we know that, October is irrelevant.
Personally I do not believe even if Corbyn changes his stance it will make much difference to labour.
As I have previously stated, politics in the UK has changed forever.
That’s just the usual swagger and empty accusations.
The link was to John Curtice. I have never sneered at any analysis he makes. he now points to the polarisation between the firm approaches taken by both sides – no-deal brexit versus a People’s Vote. This is a much more accurate analysis than the one given by the BBC of Brexit dominance. The Remain vote in the whole country was larger than the brexit vote, and all now regard Labour as uncertain, not leave or Remain. That’s why they lost votes to both sides. Read the Curtice.
When you post links, I am interested and actually read them. I regret this, as you post lazy links. You don’t read your own posts and usually send in pro-EU links in the beleif that they’re anti-EU.
Bluster and empty accusations. It’s not the booze-up after a a football match.
It’s something deadly serious, and people had better spend more time thinking about what they’re doing when the question of no-deal comes up in October.
That’s just the usual swagger and empty accusations
I can’t be bothered going through your entire patronizing sermon to Milkman but…
The centre ground is being emptied, as the Brexit party and the Remain parties surge ahead.
The Lib Dems are centrist. Fact.
in fact Lib Dems and Greens have more votes than the Brexit party
Brexit supporting parties got the most votes. Fact.
in an election which saw an increased turnout in Remain areas.
Compared to other EU elections. Fact. Irrelevant in the bigger picture on a 50% turnout (whatever it was) in an EU electionth holds no bearing in regards to a larger turnout in a general election or referendum.
You see Flashman, everything I have been stating over the past three year is now being confirmed and reiterated by the likes of John Curtis. Who you sneered at when I posted a link to his analysis after the referendum. For example people becoming more entrenched in their views and the economic divide between the haves and have nots, etc.
You won’t give a prediction of these issues beforehand for various reasons, one being not a single chatter is laying a trail of bread crumbs for you to greedily gobble up. Being an “expert” after the event is what you are, as you regurgitate what you read in the liberal press and mishmash it together to make it appear as it is your own thoughts and ideas.
Have a great night Flashman, I know I will.
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