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@token_male wrote:
@emmalush wrote:
@token_male wrote:
its nowehre near 3 million
So Susan Anderson from the Confederation of British Industry is telling lies?
yes she is you yourself posted the quote and it said 2.7million
“Political analysts were saying over the last year that the figure was 2.7 million, up 1.7 million since 1997.”
That was THEN. NOW, Susan who works at the Confederation of British Industry, is saying 3 million.
Whichever it is, there is either a disease going around which is stopping people from working, or people have cottened on to new labour’s easy way out for more votes.
Theres 4 million unemployed/sick, as was the case in the gloomy 80’s.
How are we surviving with all those benefits?
In 1997, this country’s bank account was £50,000,000 Billions, now £50,000,000 Billions in debt (political analysts say). We just sold all our gold reserves, the penshon scheme is caput, billions is being sent to Brussel, billions to foreign family members abroad.
@token_male wrote:
one job one migrant?
what a stupid opinion.
i have a friend who moved to dubai for a job! guess what! he realised the job was better paid and he would probably get a better life for him and his wife and kids over there! so they moved.
one job only though,,,,,,,,yet he took his family
i dont mind any family coming here at all to be honest i also think its a very brave and admirable thing to be able to take such a risk and go to another country to work knowing that in that country there are people who dont want them there and will post on forums expressing their hate for them.
yet through all of this these people get up leave their home! come to a foreign country with their family hoping to start a new life! they get a job! (unlike a lot of our so called home grown) they pay their way!
Does your friend get several times more in benefits than he ever pays in tax? Infact in dubai does he get ANY benefits?
Coz unless thats the case its hardly an equal comparison is it?
And when someone pays lets say £80 in tax but then gets several hundred quid in benefits as well as educations freely provided for their kids costing 10’s of thousands of pounds per year they are far from being a positive economic benefit to the country which IS supposed to be the reason for allowing immigration to begin with
@emmalush wrote:
@token_male wrote:
@emmalush wrote:
@token_male wrote:
its nowehre near 3 million
So Susan Anderson from the Confederation of British Industry is telling lies?
yes she is you yourself posted the quote and it said 2.7million
“Political analysts were saying over the last year that the figure was 2.7 million, up 1.7 million since 1997.”
That was THEN. NOW, Susan who works at the Confederation of British Industry, is saying 3 million.
Whichever it is, there is either a disease going around which is stopping people from working, or people have cottened on to new labour’s easy way out for more votes.
Theres 4 million unemployed/sick, as was the case in the gloomy 80’s.
How are we surviving with all those benefits?
In 1997, this country’s bank account was £50,000,000 Billions, now £50,000,000 Billions in debt (political analysts say). We just sold all our gold reserves, the penshon scheme is caput, billions is being sent to Brussel, billions to foreign family members abroad.
We cant be THAT broke seeing as the government seemed to think we could afford to write off all the african debts and THEN give them a gift of £10 billion for their schools the year before last
Maybe if they stopped wasting money and giving it to any ethnic minority that asks for it we might actually have enough to go round out own folks, hospitals and schools without needing to worry about it too much
African debt is hardly an ethnic minority is it
@ubermik wrote:
@token_male wrote:
one job one migrant?
what a stupid opinion.
i have a friend who moved to dubai for a job! guess what! he realised the job was better paid and he would probably get a better life for him and his wife and kids over there! so they moved.
one job only though,,,,,,,,yet he took his family
i dont mind any family coming here at all to be honest i also think its a very brave and admirable thing to be able to take such a risk and go to another country to work knowing that in that country there are people who dont want them there and will post on forums expressing their hate for them.
yet through all of this these people get up leave their home! come to a foreign country with their family hoping to start a new life! they get a job! (unlike a lot of our so called home grown) they pay their way!
Does your friend get several times more in benefits than he ever pays in tax? Infact in dubai does he get ANY benefits?
Coz unless thats the case its hardly an equal comparison is it?
And when someone pays lets say £80 in tax but then gets several hundred quid in benefits as well as educations freely provided for their kids costing 10’s of thousands of pounds per year they are far from being a positive economic benefit to the country which IS supposed to be the reason for allowing immigration to begin with
if id said that uber you would have shouted racist to the heavens and back. and if emmahad done it youd have been apapleptic with rage…. wot a hypocrite you are.
and yes i note there is no mention of colour but the rhetoric is still the same innit [bloody foreigners coming here taking our jobs our wimmin etc :lol: :lol: :lol:@waspish wrote:
@ubermik wrote:
@token_male wrote:
one job one migrant?
what a stupid opinion.
i have a friend who moved to dubai for a job! guess what! he realised the job was better paid and he would probably get a better life for him and his wife and kids over there! so they moved.
one job only though,,,,,,,,yet he took his family
i dont mind any family coming here at all to be honest i also think its a very brave and admirable thing to be able to take such a risk and go to another country to work knowing that in that country there are people who dont want them there and will post on forums expressing their hate for them.
yet through all of this these people get up leave their home! come to a foreign country with their family hoping to start a new life! they get a job! (unlike a lot of our so called home grown) they pay their way!
Does your friend get several times more in benefits than he ever pays in tax? Infact in dubai does he get ANY benefits?
Coz unless thats the case its hardly an equal comparison is it?
And when someone pays lets say £80 in tax but then gets several hundred quid in benefits as well as educations freely provided for their kids costing 10’s of thousands of pounds per year they are far from being a positive economic benefit to the country which IS supposed to be the reason for allowing immigration to begin with
if id said that uber you would have shouted racist to the heavens and back. and if emmahad done it youd have been apapleptic with rage…. wot a hypocrite you are.
and yes i note there is no mention of colour but the rhetoric is still the same innit [bloody foreigners coming here taking our jobs our wimmin etc :lol: :lol: :lol:Where on earth do you get that stupid idea?
I can assure you my views on the economic implications of immigration havent changed at any point since they were formed and I’ll happily give you a hundred quid if you can find a single post I have put on here that contradicts that view
Anyway, immigration isnt a racist topic as immigrants are of ALL races, viewing a persons actions differently if they arent white however or blaming something on someones race or nationality when someone of any ethnic background would or could have done the same thing AND wanting to punish people differently just because they have a different ethnic background ARE racist, try not to confuse the two if you can manage that
So just to clarify as you seem to be struggling to grasp a non guardian scripted viewpoint
Someone criticising an action anyone would be likely to do irrespective of background more negatively because of their background is racist or bigoted and I will always say just that
Someone coming here as an immigrant with loads of kids in tow to do a low paid job so their financial contributions are insignificant compared to what they take out is a negative financial contribution and totally contradicts the point of immigration, and what race they are, what country they are from is totally irrelevant other than when it dictates that their culture means they will be sending most of the money they do earn out of the country rather than spending it and thus bolstering the economy
The same would apply to someone from the US, Africa or Pakistan EQUALLY, money isnt racial
FYI, not EVERYONE is so feeble minded and brainwashed by the media that they can only manage to hold either an extreme right or extreme left wing view meaning they either totally kiss ethnic ass or totally hate ethnics
SOME people are actually capable of forming a view on individual topics based on the circumstances of that topic alone and not solely based on the ethnic background of the person as shocking as that seems to be to you
@token_male wrote:
African debt is hardly an ethnic minority is it
If you live in africa they arent, but DO you live in africa?
In this county they ARE an ethnic minority I think you’ll find
@ubermik wrote:
Maybe if they stopped wasting money and giving it to any ethnic minority that asks for it we might actually have enough to go round out own folks, hospitals and schools without needing to worry about it too much
I dont think minorities initially asked for funds, i think out liberal government supported them because they believe were all equal and wanted them to have our wealth.
But now, minorities ask for funds cause they know theres bleeding heart liberals who wont say no.
@emmalush wrote:
@ubermik wrote:
Maybe if they stopped wasting money and giving it to any ethnic minority that asks for it we might actually have enough to go round out own folks, hospitals and schools without needing to worry about it too much
I dont think minorities initially asked for funds, i think out liberal government supported them because they believe were all equal and wanted them to have our wealth.
But now, minorities ask for funds cause they know theres bleeding heart liberals who wont say no.
I actually think its simpler and more transparent than that
Its about votes, and the majorative demographic of the voters has been for many years increasingly made up of ethnic minorities, left leaning white voters, women and other groups with a vested interest in policy such as gays
So throwing money at any minority interest group whether racial or otherwise not only seconds votes from that group but also for the protagonists of the PC viewpoints includng liberals, democrats and other ardent left wing orientated factions who will happily support a government that throws money we dont have at poor ickle starving folks the world over or almost drowneds minority interest projects with funding here
It also appeals to women still seeking to maximise the inequality thats in their favour by having it made even more in their favour which also needs a limp wristed government desperate enough to buy votes for that to happen
So really I reckon it all just boils down to purchasing votes rather than being linked to any higher aims or social ideologies as this government has shown it will throw away any ideals its defined by the moment those ideals interfere with them getting re-elected which IMO shows a party without any core values or integrity whatsoever
@ubermik wrote:
@token_male wrote:
African debt is hardly an ethnic minority is it
If you live in africa they arent, but DO you live in africa?
In this county they ARE an ethnic minority I think you’ll find
why though??
afirca as a greater population than here? you make no sense at all surely they are an ethnic majority?
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