War with North Korea.

Momentary, in the case that you ever choose to base your respect or lack there of, for a person on the facts, present, rather than the wild assumptions you choose to draw, then and only then will anything you say have true relevance.

Because someone is intelligent and educated enough to quote a source, or indeed use a fact in an argument, does not then logically mean that the individual supports the person quoted, nor the source itself. This goes without them having to denounce the quoted person or the source of the information. People today and through history have used quotes from various sources, to make point and illustrate as required. Following the logic of your posts, every person who in the past has quoted the legendary Martin Luther King Jnr line “I have a dream” should then come out and put on record whether they agree with everything Mr King said or not. All those people who have ever sourced Nelson Mandela for information, must come out and say if they support the ANC. Anyone who has quoted Albert Einstein in a lecture or one of his equations must come out and state there support or lack there of, for not only the source but the quote itself.

Now I wont go forward with numerous other examples of how ludicrous your statements are, because I am sure even you can see it. But in closing as your making assumptions, based on facts not in evidence, about people you literally know nothing about, then I would be so errant to suggest the closed mind dwells a lot closer to home for you.

As for telling me that I need to make a statement either supporting the EDL or not, I will not and would not make a statement either way, because unlike some, I would not Assume to know all of the EDL’s policies, nor there agenda. So to make statements without all the relevent facts, would be hypocritical.

@andymcnabb wrote:

Momentary, in the case that you ever choose to base your respect or lack there of, for a person on the facts, present, rather than the wild assumptions you choose to draw, then and only then will anything you say have true relevance.

Because someone is intelligent and educated enough to quote a source, or indeed use a fact in an argument, does not then logically mean that the individual supports the person quoted, nor the source itself. This goes without them having to denounce the quoted person or the source of the information. People today and through history have used quotes from various sources, to make point and illustrate as required. Following the logic of your posts, every person who in the past has quoted the legendary Martin Luther King Jnr line “I have a dream” should then come out and put on record whether they agree with everything Mr King said or not. All those people who have ever sourced Nelson Mandela for information, must come out and say if they support the ANC. Anyone who has quoted Albert Einstein in a lecture or one of his equations must come out and state there support or lack there of, for not only the source but the quote itself.

Now I wont go forward with numerous other examples of how ludicrous your statements are, because I am sure even you can see it. But in closing as your making assumptions, based on facts not in evidence, about people you literally know nothing about, then I would be so errant to suggest the closed mind dwells a lot closer to home for you.

As for telling me that I need to make a statement either supporting the EDL or not, I will not and would not make a statement either way, because unlike some, I would not Assume to know all of the EDL’s policies, nor there agenda. So to make statements without all the relevent facts, would be hypocritical.

I would never presume to tell you what to do.

It is your choice as to whether you make a statement about supporting an organisation like the English Defence League.

Your examples are interesting but this is much closer to home. This is an English organisation with extreme views that you won’t comment on. You were very quick to take Gaz to task when he had extreme views. You were also very quick to make statements on a range of other topics. I understand that. I have made some pretty firm statements on the Boards in the last couple of days myself.

It is a very simple matter of being clear about where you stand. If you support NF and EDL ideas or policies you should stand up for them. But that is your choice.

I don’t support all this send the immigrants home and lock up the Muslims because they’re all out to get us stuff. I think that there are serious economic, cultural and security issues. But I also believe that coming together is the best way to sort them out, and to weed out the true extremists who wish us all harm – whatever our racial origin.

You don’t need to agree or to respect my views. I will always respect another individual’s right to speak but I don’t need to respect what they say. I may have misjudged you and I have told you clearly that I am willing to change my mind. So far you are giving me no reason to believe that I said anything out of line. I could be wrong. But hey – I’m just a guy on-line you’ll never meet. And my point of view is just a point of view.

We all have a forum on the Boards and no one is restricting you or taking that away from you. You can say as much or as little as you want. You can be explicit or not. It is your business how you choose to use the Boards (as long as you refrain from over the top personal abuse). You don’t need to care about what I say or indeed read it.

Simples.

@andymcnabb wrote:

As previously I have been told, that I am not permitted to make quotes or provide said information. I will leave it for you, of the unlimited time, to do your own research. While some of us go to work. Your obviously more than a bit on the slow side, beings that was posted twenty four hours ago. Dont tell me you were asleep!!!!!!!!!

@andymcnabb wrote:

Something you would be well acquainted with. As the inability to keep a job, provide for you family and adjust to the changes of society. You cant even follow step by step plans to loose your “britishness”.

So in your case it would be EPIC FAIL(URE)…….

Back to your hovel now.

* Workin on a chain gang – going down-down-down *

Ta-darrrrr Thank you very much :lol:

I wouldn’t invite any North Koreans.

Rather doubt they would make it even if we said it was fancy dress, with prizes for goose-stepping . . . or bestest shelling of a submarine award. I’d bring a fave rubber duck and some Nuremberg Rally dvds and win anyway. Then they’d be all empty-handed and have such a long way to travel home. I’m in bits here just thinking about it. . . . .

So let’s not.