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29 August, 2008 at 5:22 pm #367373
@esmeralda wrote:
@pete wrote:
Of course theres rules more so now than ever cause we need to be seen as not barbaric and there are limits to how far we SHOULD go to win
I’m minded of Spike Milligan’s remarks regarding the IRA, back in the seventies, when the British Government and media condemned the bombings and atrocities, and he argued that the IRA were at war with the Brits and therefore everyone and everything deemed ‘the enemy’ by the IRA militia, was fair game.
I agree with chickenman, no Queensbury rules. As a pacifist I simply find the hypocrisy of arguing the concept of decent and respectful warfare, too ludicrous for words. So I shall shut up now! :twisted:That my point, you cant have a nice war. Im against using troops in political wars. They should be there just to defende us from attack.
Oh Alf Garnett made me laugh in one episode. He was having an argument with a bloke in the pub about the IRA. He said if they want a war we will give em one, they should take their balaclavas off and stand up and fight proper :lol:
29 August, 2008 at 5:24 pm #367374@chickenman wrote:
@esmeralda wrote:
@pete wrote:
Of course theres rules more so now than ever cause we need to be seen as not barbaric and there are limits to how far we SHOULD go to win
I’m minded of Spike Milligan’s remarks regarding the IRA, back in the seventies, when the British Government and media condemned the bombings and atrocities, and he argued that the IRA were at war with the Brits and therefore everyone and everything deemed ‘the enemy’ by the IRA militia, was fair game.
I agree with chickenman, no Queensbury rules. As a pacifist I simply find the hypocrisy of arguing the concept of decent and respectful warfare, too ludicrous for words. So I shall shut up now! :twisted:That my point, you cant have a nice war.
Oh Alf Garnett made me laugh in one episode. He was having an argument with a bloke in the pub about the IRA. He said if they want a war we will give em one, they should take their balaclavas off and stand up and fight proper :lol:
Oh Alf Garnet…. those were the days! :lol: my favorite hammers fan ever.
29 August, 2008 at 5:31 pm #367375No don’t shut up Esme :)
I wonder how long there has been a code of conduct in war? I know during the war with the French in the early 1800s, prisoners that were officers were treated well, but that was because officers on both sides were usually titled and had bought their positions with hard cash. I think the rank and file soldiers were not treated so well.
The Geneva Convention applies to non-combatants and prisoners of war.
In the Great War and WW2 the loss of life of combatants was horrendous, but what people react strongly too is the mass murder of civilians.
The same was true in Bosnia, where whole villages were slaughtered in ethnic cleansing.
However, if a scud missile lands in a town and kills thousands of civilians it is not looked at in the same way!
There seems no sense to it really.
29 August, 2008 at 5:40 pm #367376“Ethnic cleansing” depends entirely on which side of a conflict you are.
“Disproportionate use of force” only applies if you don’t like the “winner” in a conflict.
“War crimes” are always decided by the victor in a conflict and the loser is always the accused.
Dead men tell no tales.
29 August, 2008 at 5:51 pm #367377In Iraq the british and americans have use “hi impact” weapons that have been banned by most countries but because we use them and make the rules for that conflict it’s ok but if nerve gas was used against us we would be screaming its against some convention somewhere.
29 August, 2008 at 6:22 pm #367378So if you want to win a war by chopping childrens heads off no one can complain because it’s war so you can do whatever you want
29 August, 2008 at 6:40 pm #367379@pete wrote:
So if you want to win a war by chopping childrens heads off no one can complain because it’s war so you can do whatever you want
…. or more conventionally, by killing the other side’s combatants. Generally speaking, decapitating children isn’t a good military strategy, mainly because they usually don’t shoot at you and try to kill you.
29 August, 2008 at 6:42 pm #367380@pete wrote:
So if you want to win a war by chopping childrens heads off no one can complain because it’s war so you can do whatever you want
Yep :lol:
It’s like if a terrorist hase planted a bomb in a city should we use tortcha , i’d say yes beat the cr4p out of them until they tell you what you need to know.
Best thing is to avoid a war in the first place by countries not poking their nose in where it don’t belong.
I noticed how we ain’t giving it large against Russia but we are quite happy to invade a load of sandel wearing camel herders in the desert :lol:
Still can’t go on about the iraq was. Think we have all exhausted that one.Dont forget eurolotto £70,000,000 this friday.
29 August, 2008 at 6:52 pm #367381@forumhostpb wrote:
@pete wrote:
So if you want to win a war by chopping childrens heads off no one can complain because it’s war so you can do whatever you want
…. or more conventionally, by killing the other side’s combatants. Generally speaking, decapitating children isn’t a good military strategy, mainly because they usually don’t shoot at you and try to kill you.
29 August, 2008 at 6:55 pm #367382@pete wrote:
@forumhostpb wrote:
@pete wrote:
So if you want to win a war by chopping childrens heads off no one can complain because it’s war so you can do whatever you want
…. or more conventionally, by killing the other side’s combatants. Generally speaking, decapitating children isn’t a good military strategy, mainly because they usually don’t shoot at you and try to kill you.
They must be scared someones going to nick their twigs or recipes for pot poddle :D
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