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23 October, 2012 at 8:04 pm #513202
@panda12 wrote:
@terry wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
Terry is many things and I don’t always see eye to eye with him but he’s certainly not a racist.
But really it’s all mind over matter isn’t it?
I don’t mind and the likes of Irish Lucy, Sceptical Guy and tinks really don’t matter.
:shock:
i dont matter :D …………hey tell me summat i dont know
24 October, 2012 at 7:01 am #513203@tinks wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
@terry wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
Terry is many things and I don’t always see eye to eye with him but he’s certainly not a racist.
But really it’s all mind over matter isn’t it?
I don’t mind and the likes of Irish Lucy, Sceptical Guy and tinks really don’t matter.
:shock:
i dont matter :D …………hey tell me summat i dont know
I matter… 8)
I think … :?:
oh, I don’t… :idea:
all right then… :(
see if I care… :roll:
7 November, 2012 at 5:07 am #513204Rumour has it that UKIP and BNP supporters are confused by Obama’s election win.
They don’t understand how a black person can be allowed into a white house.
8)
:wink:
7 November, 2012 at 5:37 pm #513205Maybe you should make a connection between Labour and BNP: both are actively involved with discrimination. UKIP are more concerned with a withdrawal from the EU.
7 November, 2012 at 5:50 pm #513206True Terry the link between UKIP and discrimination is not based on the party’s public platform, but on the avowed views of some of those who associate with it.
UKIP would need to get rid of anyone with BNP or similar connections to escape that.
I don’t agree with the views of UKIP but it needn’t be associated with discrimination. It does however need to take action against what might become its very own lunatic fringe.
7 November, 2012 at 6:10 pm #513207@momentaryloss wrote:
True Terry the link between UKIP and discrimination is not based on the party’s public platform, but on the avowed views of some of those who associate with it.
UKIP would need to get rid of anyone with BNP or similar connections to escape that.
I don’t agree with the views of UKIP but it needn’t be associated with discrimination. It does however need to take action against what might become its very own lunatic fringe.
All parties have lunatic fringes (Harriet Harman and Chris Bryant spring to mind for Labour).
UKIP will always get smeared with wrong-doing – it’s the nature of politics and something that played a crucial role in yesterday’s US election result too.
7 November, 2012 at 6:13 pm #513208@terry wrote:
@momentaryloss wrote:
True Terry the link between UKIP and discrimination is not based on the party’s public platform, but on the avowed views of some of those who associate with it.
UKIP would need to get rid of anyone with BNP or similar connections to escape that.
I don’t agree with the views of UKIP but it needn’t be associated with discrimination. It does however need to take action against what might become its very own lunatic fringe.
All parties have lunatic fringes (Harriet Harman and Chris Bryant spring to mind for Labour).
UKIP will always get smeared with wrong-doing – it’s the nature of politics and played a crucial role in yesterday’s US election result too.
Not sure that I agree with you about your two examples but I certainly agree that it is a problem for all parties. Just as Labour have to deal with people who are off message, so do UKIP.
As with the US elections, often the “off message” is heard more loudly by the population than the official party line.
7 November, 2012 at 6:25 pm #513209@momentaryloss wrote:
Not sure that I agree with you about your two examples.
Don’t worry about it – I tend to overlook your reasoning too.
7 November, 2012 at 6:43 pm #513210@terry wrote:
Maybe you should make a connection between Labour and BNP: both are actively involved with discrimination. UKIP are more concerned with a withdrawal from the EU.
Maybe you should read my opening post on this thread.
UKIP may not be actively involved in discrimination but that’s only because they have no MPs and I believe about seven local councillors – hardly a power base from which to implement their blatant discrimination against anyone who is not a white, British male.
Thankfully, this counrty is far more demograhically diverese.
7 November, 2012 at 6:48 pm #513211@terry wrote:
@momentaryloss wrote:
True Terry the link between UKIP and discrimination is not based on the party’s public platform, but on the avowed views of some of those who associate with it.
UKIP would need to get rid of anyone with BNP or similar connections to escape that.
I don’t agree with the views of UKIP but it needn’t be associated with discrimination. It does however need to take action against what might become its very own lunatic fringe.
UKIP will always get smeared with wrong-doing – it’s the nature of politics and something that played a crucial role in yesterday’s US election result too.
Not smeared but exposed for what they really are.
As for the US election, Ronmey only appealed to the white, mainly male Americans rather than the American people as whole.
His wanting to close down the car industry, taking away worker’s healthcare provisions and wanting to deny woman their rights is lunatic so yes you’re right in that respect that lunacy played a part in yesterday’s election results.
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