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9 April, 2010 at 3:05 pm #14596
If you are thinking of voting for this party but also claim to be an intelligent person, bear in mind that UKIP believe fossil fuels are renewable:
Steve Reed (Chairman, UKIP Wells and Weston-super-Mare branch) has written:
“Brussels requires us (Directive 2001/77/EC) to generate 12 per cent of all our
energy and 22.1 per cent of our electricity from ‘renewable resources’ by 2010. I
place ‘renewable resources’ in parenthesis [sic], because the resources meant are not
renewable, whereas fossil-fuels are. … Fossil-fuels are constantly being produced
on the tectonic conveyor-belt. This is not just academic nit-picking: these processes
are generally very slow, but oil-wells do refill”.34Of course they may well refill – in a few million years.
:roll:
If you do vote for them, best keep it quiet unless intelligent people think you’re a simpleton.
Full article: http://www.richardcorbett.org.uk/assets/docs/briefing/theres-something-about-ukip.pdf
9 April, 2010 at 5:18 pm #437591@panda12 wrote:
If you are thinking of voting for this party but also claim to be an intelligent person, bear in mind that UKIP believe fossil fuels are renewable:
Steve Reed (Chairman, UKIP Wells and Weston-super-Mare branch) has written:
“Brussels requires us (Directive 2001/77/EC) to generate 12 per cent of all our
energy and 22.1 per cent of our electricity from ‘renewable resources’ by 2010. I
place ‘renewable resources’ in parenthesis [sic], because the resources meant are not
renewable, whereas fossil-fuels are. … Fossil-fuels are constantly being produced
on the tectonic conveyor-belt. This is not just academic nit-picking: these processes
are generally very slow, but oil-wells do refill”.34Of course they may well refill – in a few million years.
:roll:
If you do vote for them, best keep it quiet unless intelligent people think you’re a simpleton.
Full article: http://www.richardcorbett.org.uk/assets/docs/briefing/theres-something-about-ukip.pdf
It gets even better from UKIP:
Steve Reed has also stated: “[‘Renewable resources’] are not renewable… Taking
energy from winds and tides irreversibly enervates the weather system and slows
the rotation of the Earth”Yeah – the wind farms near me generating clean electricity is causing my clocks to lose time :roll:
10 April, 2010 at 8:57 pm #437592During the last European election campaign UKIP featured Winston Churchill on the front of their propaganda leaflets. In 1946, Winston Churchill proposed a ‘United States of Europe’.
Quite a big gaffe on the part of UKIP, methinks!
13 April, 2010 at 12:52 pm #437593There are 300 yrs worth of coal under the UK, not renewable i admit but the only reasonable alternative for energy production is nuclear
14 April, 2010 at 7:10 am #437594Best campaign poster of the election so far.
As for renewables, well they don’t really work, wind power is expensive and useless in high winds as well as no wind, also the windfarms built offshore are sinking into the sea amazingly enough.
So the choices are coal or nuclear, both aren’t renewable, but both at least are reliable.
Incidentally all 3 main parties want us to remain in the EU at a cost of £45 million a day, getting out could help start paying off the debt crisis we’re in. Just a thought.
14 April, 2010 at 11:11 am #437595Alternative energy just isn’t anything but a partial player in the energy production market and a small part at that. The sea erodes granite cliffs what chance have we got of producing anything that isn’t high maintenance and therefore high cost. Wind turbines are killing bats i read somewhere and again high maintenance. Geo thermal… we aint got none, hydro electric.. small scale in scotland maybe.. oil and gas .. it will run out… nuclear…. ok but thousands of yrs before the “waste” is safe. Leaves coal .. unfortunately Maggie made sure thats going to be expensive if we want to go back to it
14 April, 2010 at 11:36 am #437596Can we go back to coal Pete.
Majority of mines have been left in a position were they cannot be re-opened, the government made sure of that. Majority of them will be flooded because with not working they are not having the water pumped out ( many people who have bought houses built on old pit tops wonder why the gardens are always flooded and the houses are damp)14 April, 2010 at 11:41 am #437597We could but it’d be expensive.. either have to pump out the water but given the pit i worked at would have been flooded within 9 hrs to a level where it would be unworkable thats an awful lot of water.. or sink new pits and come from a different angle i guess… again bloody expensive
14 April, 2010 at 12:06 pm #437598Sinking new pits would give the tree huggers plenty to shout about. Even if they did sink new pits would the young generation of today want to work down them – it would be too
I am aware of an area which has been ear-marked since the last war as a large coal seam that would be opened up in the event of a war . At the moment they are wanting to build houses on this – they are not even looking at the possibility of outcropping this coal, they would rather import it.
14 April, 2010 at 10:10 pm #437599Despite the totally destructive ideology and socially degenerate actions of this poor excuse of a female……thatcher had a very astute sense of morality concerning section 28…..she had it spot on………. Now what have we got in her place ? Cameron… a plastic envoiramentalist cycling his way to gay parades apologisng and trying to appease the “gay voters “……oooh im sorry, maggie didnt mean it…. lets teach the children its just fine for daddy to hop into bed with the milkman ffs…… And that idiot Bliar denouncing section 28……just as well he got ousted….Self producing equipment in every home, generated, transformed and distributed, thats the answer to so many problems in this country and the world over…..get off your fat a~rses and generate some joules… :twisted:
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