Two British warships being sent to Middle East

My mate’s on HMS Gloucester, he’s well pissed off.

Edit: By the way, I think it’s now a total of six ships being sent.

Slaughtering Lebanese civilians will only increase the number of islamic extremists in the world. It’s not in our interest at all.

@emmalush wrote:

@Mr Bigstuff wrote:

Slaughtering Lebanese civilians will only increase the number of islamic extremists in the world. It’s not in our interest at all.

Might be in the bush/blair/christian fight to keep islam and its nation of people below them.

If only that ‘Christian’ bit wasn’t in there, I’d be all for it. :(

:-s Those people didn’t visit a war zone and expect to be rescued, they were there when violence erupted. Of course they deserve to be evacuated by their country if it is possible. Further, if people join the armed forces then they do as they’re told, whether they agree with it or not. That’s the cost of the Queen’s shilling.

As for the Israeli action itself, it all seems perfectly predictable to me, if customarily heavy handed. They have been attacked by forces armed by their self-declared enemies and hosted in a neighbouring country which has done little or nothing to curb the presence of an extra-governmental army within their borders, despite Security Council resolutions instructing them otherwise.

Imagine if Ipswich and Norwich were being bombarded by hundreds of rockets from the Dutch coast and the Dutch government simply said there was nothing they could do. Imagine if an army of extremist Dutch* financed and armed by Germany and France had conducted raids on the Essex coast and kidnapped two squaddies from Colchester to God knows what fate. Would you be pleased to see a British government simply sit on its hands? Or would you want to take action against the Dutch extremists, their sponsors and the Dutch government? Such is the plight of Israel.

* Unlikely, I know. The Dutch only get extremist when they move to Africa. I think it’s because their spliff supplies get cut off. But it’s an analogy. And unlikely analogies have served their purpose for a long time now.

@pikey wrote:

:-s Those people didn’t visit a war zone and expect to be rescued, they were there when violence erupted. Of course they deserve to be evacuated by their country if it is possible. Further, if people join the armed forces then they do as they’re told, whether they agree with it or not. That’s the cost of the Queen’s shilling.

As for the Israeli action itself, it all seems perfectly predictable to me, if customarily heavy handed. They have been attacked by forces armed by their self-declared enemies and hosted in a neighbouring country which has done little or nothing to curb the presence of an extra-governmental army within their borders, despite Security Council resolutions instructing them otherwise.

Imagine if Ipswich and Norwich were being bombarded by hundreds of rockets from the Dutch coast and the Dutch government simply said there was nothing they could do. Imagine if an army of extremist Dutch* financed and armed by Germany and France had conducted raids on the Essex coast and kidnapped two squaddies from Colchester to God knows what fate. Would you be pleased to see a British government simply sit on its hands? Or would you want to take action against the Dutch extremists, their sponsors and the Dutch government? Such is the plight of Israel.

* Unlikely, I know. The Dutch only get extremist when they move to Africa. I think it’s because their spliff supplies get cut off. But it’s an analogy. And unlikely analogies have served their purpose for a long time now.

i understand what you’re saying. i simply said that i don’t believe that british people should be allowed to travel to the middle east, where war has been raging, through one faction or another for years ! as for a holiday destination would they travel to serbia, bosnia, kosova, belfast, rowanda, somalia etc etc etc . and as far as im concerned, with the terrosist organisations building up a precedence in the british isle, the governmemt would be better to sort them out instead fo fighting a war that really has nothing to do with us. maybe if the british government used our soldiers to protect us, we wouldn’t have had the atrocities of the london bombings.. people were quick enough to condemn MR BIgley who went and got himself beheaded, with comments such as ‘why was he there in the first place’… ‘why should we risk our soldiers lives to save him when he was aware of the risks … why should the same not apply to these citizens ?? i ask not to get your back up, but because your conversation is interesting and intelligent, plus i mite learn a thing or two ! i’ve been watching the rescue on tv today and i had to ask myself, would i, as a parent, bring my child, (whether it be a holiday, visiting family, or religious reasons) to a place that i was aware was as volatile as the majority of the middle east is…plus they bloody hate the english ! so surely by visiting these countries… aren’t you asking for trouble. ??