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Gun ownership is legal in the UK.
Not only is it legal, it is a right.
You can get AR-15’s in the UK.
Gun ownership is legal in the UK.
Not only is it legal, it is a right.
You can get AR-15’s in the UK.
Therefore, to claim that gun violence in the UK is lower because of ‘gun control’ is nonsense.
Anyone who wants a gun can fairly easily obtain one, not sure where the ‘control’ is.
Even ignoring the bill of rights, class 2 firearm licences are shall issue, which means they cannot legally be refused and must be given to anyone who asks for one.
And yes, I know class 2 licences only cover shotguns, but it takes about 5 seconds to modify a breach loading shotgun into a rifle.
Doing that is probably illegal, but so is shooting people.
So I dont think that’s the problem.Well hello drac, I was wondering when you were gonna stick your cute little nose into this debate and try to debunk everything I’ve said. Before you make anymore boo boos, I suggest you read
Plymouth shooting: Who can own a firearm or shotgun in the UK? – BBC News
..and I refer you back to the big picture that the UK has a tiny fraction of the gun ownership per head than the USA and consequently it has a tiny fraction of the gun violence per head than our cousins across the pond. The UK does not have a gun culture as does the USA and gun ownership isn’t promoted anywhere near as much as it is in the US. Our community police perform their job by consent, not with guns.
Tell me drac, are you compelled to rush out and buy an AR15 and convert it for your protection? I’d like to see that…
Try concentrating on the main facts of the case, not tiny little distracting details. You don’t wanna be like fishy do you ?
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This reply was modified 2 years, 4 months ago by
cooldandywarhol.
Well hello drac, I was wondering when you were gonna stick your cute little nose into this debate and try to debunk everything I’ve said. Before you make anymore boo boos, I suggest you read
Plymouth shooting: Who can own a firearm or shotgun in the UK? – BBC News
Nothing in the article you linked contradicts anything I said
Yes, there are background checks, but you also need those in the US to buy a gun.
Its not very much harder to get one, the difference is cultural not legal.
..and I refer you back to the big picture that the UK has a tiny fraction of the gun ownership per head than the USA and consequently it has a tiny fraction of the gun violence per head than our cousins across the pond. The UK does not have a gun culture as does the USA and gun ownership isn’t promoted anywhere near as much as it is in the US.
The main argument being made in this thread is that crime rates in the UK are lower because of ‘gun control’. But as I said its not that hard to get a gun in the UK, so this argument doesn’t make sense.
Our community police perform their job by consent, not with guns.
One of the reasons I moved out of Manchester was because there were armed police patrolling everywhere .
(I think this photo is from Leicester, but this is a very common sight in Manchester too)Tell me drac, are you compelled to rush out and buy an AR15 and convert it for your protection? I’d like to see that…
Try concentrating on the main facts of the case, not tiny little distracting details. You don’t wanna be like fishy do you ?
Modify it into what?
An AR-15 is already a semi-automatic ‘assault’ rifle.
You’re not really a numbers girl are you drac? You don’t go in for statistics in any way shape or form do you – preferring to concentrate on the dramatic headline or shock-inducing picture to make your point…..just to pick an argument with………….well……….me.
I’ve never said that the UK is perfect when it comes to guns and I’ve never talked about gun control ad nauseum like you and the others do.
No my dear, lets boil it down to one simple correlation: when you have more guns you have more gun violence..most of it domestic…and sadly more gun deaths. I’m glad that we agree there is a cultural difference between most civilised countries and the USA regarding gun ownership. The thread started with my dear ol mukker Trump endorsing wider gun ownership following Uvalde. ‘give the teachers guns’ he said (and not for the first time).
Imagine BoJo saying that over here. I’m intrigued to know what your reaction would be to that???
Hmmmmm ???
FYI drac, one of the most obscene films I have ever seen.
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This reply was modified 2 years, 4 months ago by cooldandywarhol.
“One of the reasons I moved out of Manchester was because there were armed police patrolling everywhere.”
That seriously is the stupidest thing you ever wrote. Debating retards is a waste of my time. It’s like trying to play chess with a houseplant. There is no point for me to participate in this thread any longer.
Welcome back puds.
Now, who wrote what mate?
See puds,
In your haste to exit the thread with no clear response to the question about gun volume linked to gun violence, your exit strategy was to criticise something you thought I said.
Well, here goes puds……I didn’t say it. It was dear ol drac that said it – Quote ‘One of the reasons I moved out of Manchester was because there were armed police patrolling everywhere’
Yes. It was drac that said that. She said there were armed police patrolling everywhere in Manchester. Hmmmmmm..let’s analyse that for a minute shall we.
There definitely was an increased presence of armed police at public events in Manchester after the terrorist bomb tragedy at an Ariane Grande concert in 2017. That increased presence seems to have been met with different views from the public. You see, we’re not a gun loving nation like yours puds. Anyway, the thought of ‘armed police patrolling everywhere’ is another one of drac’s over-dramatisations to get up people’s noses.
Sorry, but between you, you’ve both managed to royally fuck up this one.
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