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    @waspish wrote:

    @emmalush wrote:

    @slayer wrote:

    Cameron has regularly raised immigration issues and stated it is unsustainable in its present format.

    I regularly raised the high jump bar but i still didn’t jump it. Dave cameron doesn’t know how to tackle mass immigration, he skirts round it with blag words and idiots like you believe him.

    HOWEVER, Enoch Powell made immigration a race issue and Hailston agreed with Powell and therefore agreed its a race issue hence he was sacked

    That statement proves my above point, EVERY human immigrant on earth has a race, therefore it is a race issue, more so, we now have racial segregation whereby folk and different races dont mix.

    If Immigration is bad- then its all immigration…Scots in England, Welsh in Scotland, Irish in England….Canadians, Aussies, Kiwis, South Arfricans, Frence, German, Danes, Swiss, Swedes, etc as well as Somalis, Afghans, Iriaqis etc all over here

    Not all the 60 million who live in britain are immigrants you retard.

    There comes a point when those who were born here must say, hold on, this is our country by birth right, we have more stake than foreigners.

    The other thing is community cohesion, in an orderly society, the prodomanently people get on better, thus the others are in the way, or should be made to get along or they should leave for if they wont they’ll be a civil war created by the rulers who allowed them in.

    Its your choice slavery slayer, do you want the born natives to rise up?

    completeley agree with emma on this point it will be too late before long TO do anything. we are being overrun with immigrants from all over the world [and i dont give a toss what colour they are] the fact is mosques are preaching hatred and vile bigotry every day here in britain, we know it and the police know it. and what do the government do ??? pass laws to stop any interference with the hate clerics who are planning our demise.
    there are thousands of people from all over the world working hard to better their lives granted,and they are welcome. but they are the few amongst the many. take this instance. a male arrives from abroad, he gets a home sorted, gets a job, saves for a while then sends for his wife and 2 kids to join him, no probs with that. the other side is a man arrives from abroad with wife and 2 kids. goes to dss office gets benefits a house supplied by council and thats where he stays on benefits with wife and kids being kept by you and i. the simplicity is glaringly obvious, no one should be given benefits of any kind for the first 5 years of their stay here, and if they dont work they get nothing. this would stop once and for all the likes of the somalis who are arriving at a rate of 60 per day into tower hamlets alone. i supose some will be banging the racist drum again and frankily your wasting your time, i dont care about the colour i do care about the intent.we will be in dire straits in britain very soon and what will happen when the poles start fighting with the slovacs. the albanians go to war over drug turf with the asians and the west indians. when the russians begin murdering the poles and the albanians for territory over jobs. believe me it is a scary thought and its coming.

    Wasp- you must be really paranoid to tag on to every post something about “call me a racist if you like etc”

    Poles fighting Slovaks (more likely to be Ukrainians though) etc is guarranteed- the simple issues facing this country when it comes to immigration are

    Crime- does the benefit of an open border policy outweigh the impact of organised crime coming from the eastern bloc

    Health- does the benefit of an open border policy outweigh the pressures placed on both primary and secondary healthcare

    Housing- does the benefit of an open border policy outweigh the impact of losing social housing

    Education- does the benefit of an open border policy outweigh the impact of increased class sizes and a local school dynamic being detrimentaly changed by increase in non english speaking pupils

    Immigration is about what is and isnt manageable economically and socially- it isnt about not wanting to have a Pole as a neighbour- the next generation Poles who are born here will be BRITISH with Polish ancestry- just like you Irish lot who came over here in the 19th century

    #292611

    @slayer wrote:

    you’re right, this country belongs to those who were born here…let them stand up against the tides of immigration which is washing these shores and eroding away the country as I know it..but we stand united Emma not some feckwit whites only cr/ap

    But if the whites who were born here want an all white England, you aint going to stop them.

    The more multi-hellhole is forced upon them, the more your wife will have to leave.

    #292612

    @emmalush wrote:

    @slayer wrote:

    you’re right, this country belongs to those who were born here…let them stand up against the tides of immigration which is washing these shores and eroding away the country as I know it..but we stand united Emma not some feckwit whites only cr/ap

    But if the whites who were born here want an all white England, you aint going to stop them.

    The more multi-hellhole is forced upon them, the more your wife will have to leave.

    Oh I see

    Now you’ve contradicted yourself and said “its the whites only who were born here”-

    #292613

    you may call me paranoid, you may call me racist, and you may disagree but i for one am certain that our country is being reduced to a racially divided cess pit where many thousands of foreign people, all with different cultures and all with different ideas of right and wrong are being shoved into small towns and the indigenous peoples of these towns are seing their social systems such as you say housing, schools, health, and all the benefit choices being shoved to the point of bursting, so in the interest of fair play explainto me how the following benefit our country.
    up to 60 somalis a day arriving in tower hamlets demanding assylum.
    school classes with 35 children, two thirds of which dont speak english.
    over 400 new cases of tb reported last year alone mainly imported from yhe indian sub continent.
    a market town in lincoln where 3000 young immigrant males from eastern european countries have been added to the town doubling it in size in less than two years.
    hospital maternity wards full to bursting with foreign babies being born at the rate of 4 to every english one.
    councils all over britain spending thousands of pounds translating leaflets into up to 8 languages for foreign people to claim housing and other benefits.
    people arriving here and claiming tax credits and child benefit for children living abroad.
    single women from african countries arriving here homeless and penniless to be iven houses an benefits then being allowed to send for their extended families to come and join them on the gravy train.
    these are just a few of my paranoid thoughts and mabey none of this happens in other folks worlds but it does in the real one where i am.?
    please enlighten me. :wink:

    #292614

    @slayer wrote:

    Oh I see

    Now you’ve contradicted yourself and said “its the whites only who were born here”-

    slavery, you’re a complete retard at times, that “quote” statemnt makes little sense.

    I didn’t say that only whites born here are English. And although i dont believe non whites can be English, whats wrong with that?

    #292615

    @waspish wrote:

    you may call me paranoid, you may call me racist, and you may disagree but i for one am certain that our country is being reduced to a racially divided cess pit where many thousands of foreign people, all with different cultures and all with different ideas of right and wrong are being shoved into small towns and the indigenous peoples of these towns are seing their social systems such as you say housing, schools, health, and all the benefit choices being shoved to the point of bursting, so in the interest of fair play explainto me how the following benefit our country.
    up to 60 somalis a day arriving in tower hamlets demanding assylum.
    school classes with 35 children, two thirds of which dont speak english.
    over 400 new cases of tb reported last year alone mainly imported from yhe indian sub continent.
    a market town in lincoln where 3000 young immigrant males from eastern european countries have been added to the town doubling it in size in less than two years.
    hospital maternity wards full to bursting with foreign babies being born at the rate of 4 to every english one.
    councils all over britain spending thousands of pounds translating leaflets into up to 8 languages for foreign people to claim housing and other benefits.
    people arriving here and claiming tax credits and child benefit for children living abroad.
    single women from african countries arriving here homeless and penniless to be iven houses an benefits then being allowed to send for their extended families to come and join them on the gravy train.
    these are just a few of my paranoid thoughts and mabey none of this happens in other folks worlds but it does in the real one where i am.?
    please enlighten me. :wink:

    Now read my statement again…slowly and with big breaths

    Now read the final paragraph of my statement several times until you understand it

    Right- now understand that I have said in my statement exactly what you’ve said in yours- immigration is NOT about race…it is about whether our hospitals, schools, social welfare support system etc is able to cope with unprecendented mass immigration, it is about the irrevocable change in an area’s makeup (thats Britons of ALL colours) and whether the benefits reaped from economic migration outweigh the negative costs

    BUT you don’t have to state time and time again about “it’s not racist to say so”- it isnt if the issues are raised from an economic, social, health or education view point.

    N which Lincolnshire town has had 3,000 immigrants “doubling its size”? That would mean the “town” only had 3,000 people to start with n where I come from, thats called a village!

    #292616

    @waspish wrote:

    you may call me paranoid, you may call me racist, and you may disagree but i for one am certain that our country is being reduced to a racially divided cess pit where many thousands of foreign people, all with different cultures and all with different ideas of right and wrong are being shoved into small towns and the indigenous peoples of these towns are seing their social systems such as you say housing, schools, health, and all the benefit choices being shoved to the point of bursting, so in the interest of fair play explainto me how the following benefit our country.
    up to 60 somalis a day arriving in tower hamlets demanding assylum.
    school classes with 35 children, two thirds of which dont speak english.
    over 400 new cases of tb reported last year alone mainly imported from yhe indian sub continent.
    a market town in lincoln where 3000 young immigrant males from eastern european countries have been added to the town doubling it in size in less than two years.
    hospital maternity wards full to bursting with foreign babies being born at the rate of 4 to every english one.
    councils all over britain spending thousands of pounds translating leaflets into up to 8 languages for foreign people to claim housing and other benefits.
    people arriving here and claiming tax credits and child benefit for children living abroad.
    single women from african countries arriving here homeless and penniless to be iven houses an benefits then being allowed to send for their extended families to come and join them on the gravy train.
    these are just a few of my paranoid thoughts and mabey none of this happens in other folks worlds but it does in the real one where i am.?
    please enlighten me. :wink:

    And to follow on from my previous

    An example of positive benefits

    A school in Lincoln (Monks Abbey Primary) was in danger of closing and merging with another primary school due to falling numbers. Monks Abbey is in one the poorer parts of Lincoln with no other local primary school- a closure would have meant children could no longer walk to school but would have to be driven across town (or bussed as many do not have 2 cars..or even 1!)

    The threat was very real until last year when an increase migration into the area of Polish families saw a 20% increase in the school population (and yes, all the kids could speak Englsih very well) which meant the threat of closure has gone.

    Weigh up the pros and cons- as said before I live in a village which is 35% English and 65% Eastern European due to landworkers n it has yet to cause any problems at all other than a windfall for the only pub in the village- it works here because the actual fabric of the village hasnt changed, it is still the same village it always has been just with a few more accents. Its no less safer, no more violent etc

    #292617

    you make valid points there slayerbut the facts remain that there is a severe feeling of unrest and hopelessness among many thousands of english people who feel their towns [or villages are being over run with these people.] im sorry i dont buy your argument that their children all speak english thats utter crap. we have a nation of fekless stay at home youths here who are perfectly capable of working who would rather sit on their arses and watch trisha or kyle and co rather than work, they should be offered the work these immigrants are doing and if they refuse then their benefit should be stopped full stop. then we would not need ivan and his wife and 4 kids to come here to pick spuds at a fiver a hour whilst claiming 300 quid a week in housing benefit working tax credits and home grants to sey themselves up. let alone little nikitas teeth need doing and mrs ivan needs an operation to fix her bad back or grandad ivan who has tb but hey thats ok its good for the economy…. what a load of bollix. and yes i do keep saying its not a colour thing because if i dont the first thing you and others do is scream racist at the top of your voice so i include the saying to get the point over that we qare being invaded and our nations identity is beginning to talk with a distinct accent. somewhere between punjabi and russianesque gang talk. isnt anyone here slightly worried whatwill happen in 15years when theirs start breeding with ours and the nation becomes segregated into white and black, all hating one another..

    #292618

    @waspish wrote:

    you make valid points there slayerbut the facts remain that there is a severe feeling of unrest and hopelessness among many thousands of english people who feel their towns [or villages are being over run with these people.] im sorry i dont buy your argument that their children all speak english thats utter crap. we have a nation of fekless stay at home youths here who are perfectly capable of working who would rather sit on their arses and watch trisha or kyle and co rather than work, they should be offered the work these immigrants are doing and if they refuse then their benefit should be stopped full stop. then we would not need ivan and his wife and 4 kids to come here to pick spuds at a fiver a hour whilst claiming 300 quid a week in housing benefit working tax credits and home grants to sey themselves up. let alone little nikitas teeth need doing and mrs ivan needs an operation to fix her bad back or grandad ivan who has tb but hey thats ok its good for the economy…. what a load of bollix. and yes i do keep saying its not a colour thing because if i dont the first thing you and others do is scream racist at the top of your voice so i include the saying to get the point over that we qare being invaded and our nations identity is beginning to talk with a distinct accent. somewhere between punjabi and russianesque gang talk. isnt anyone here slightly worried whatwill happen in 15years when theirs start breeding with ours and the nation becomes segregated into white and black, all hating one another..

    Wasp

    I fully agree that the lazy scrotes that sit in their backsides all day and do nothing should be made to work..or lose their benefits. I completely agree that this would prevent some migration as if we do our own jobs there isnt anyone else left to do them.

    As for 15 years time? (n this is where become confused)..the vast majority of migration at the moment is white and eurpoean so how segration into black and white will occur I’m not following.

    Clearly you views are formed by your experiences in West Yorkshire just like mine are formed by my experiences in Lincolnshire. As far as I’m concerned, if you’re born here n given a British passport, then you’re British…dont matter what you ancestry is. Thats how most of us can trace our ancestry back to another country other than “England” cos somehwere along the lines we’ve all been put into one big mixed pot- the original mongrel nation (and I say that with a huge amount of pride).

    #292619

    @slayer wrote:

    @waspish wrote:

    you make valid points there slayerbut the facts remain that there is a severe feeling of unrest and hopelessness among many thousands of english people who feel their towns [or villages are being over run with these people.] im sorry i dont buy your argument that their children all speak english thats utter crap. we have a nation of fekless stay at home youths here who are perfectly capable of working who would rather sit on their arses and watch trisha or kyle and co rather than work, they should be offered the work these immigrants are doing and if they refuse then their benefit should be stopped full stop. then we would not need ivan and his wife and 4 kids to come here to pick spuds at a fiver a hour whilst claiming 300 quid a week in housing benefit working tax credits and home grants to sey themselves up. let alone little nikitas teeth need doing and mrs ivan needs an operation to fix her bad back or grandad ivan who has tb but hey thats ok its good for the economy…. what a load of bollix. and yes i do keep saying its not a colour thing because if i dont the first thing you and others do is scream racist at the top of your voice so i include the saying to get the point over that we qare being invaded and our nations identity is beginning to talk with a distinct accent. somewhere between punjabi and russianesque gang talk. isnt anyone here slightly worried whatwill happen in 15years when theirs start breeding with ours and the nation becomes segregated into white and black, all hating one another..

    Wasp

    I fully agree that the lazy scrotes that sit in their backsides all day and do nothing should be made to work..or lose their benefits. I completely agree that this would prevent some migration as if we do our own jobs there isnt anyone else left to do them.

    As for 15 years time? (n this is where become confused)..the vast majority of migration at the moment is white and eurpoean so how segration into black and white will occur I’m not following.

    Clearly you views are formed by your experiences in West Yorkshire just like mine are formed by my experiences in Lincolnshire. As far as I’m concerned, if you’re born here n given a British passport, then you’re British…dont matter what you ancestry is. Thats how most of us can trace our ancestry back to another country other than “England” cos somehwere along the lines we’ve all been put into one big mixed pot- the original mongrel nation (and I say that with a huge amount of pride).

    where i agree there pet is yes if your born here and your parents were born here then youre british, simple as, what i dont want is for our children breeding with any of the twenty something immigration nationals bareley speaking our language. bringing our grandchildren up speaking two languages and instilling predjudices and political hatred to their kids,while shoving the english out of them in a drive for ethnic diversity.more and more english kids are being told that they arent a member of anything if your english, if your polish, or albanian, or a muslim, you represent your home country but if your english you represent no one. its not the mixing of cultures that scares me its the fact that our culture is being supressed and ignored where other cultures are supported given money and listened to,

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