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I’ve tried to bring up my kids to realise that there are times when the peer pressure on them from friends will be extremely hard to go against and that they will be tempted to try things, however I used to smoke so I’ll know straight away if they do and I used to be a complete mash head.
I’m not saying this because I’m proud of it but it means I can talk to my kids about it with a great deal of experience.
What most adults forget, is that getting pissed and stoned is fun, pure and simple.
What CAN happen whilst your off your tree ISN’T, eg violence, date rape, vandalism etc these are the things we need to be warning kids against.
All you can do is your best when it comes to steering them along the right path. unfortunately there are some complete a**eholes who don’t give a toss what there kids are up to, these ones are future jail bait I’m afraid.@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
You misunderstood what he said. He didn’t say that men 20+ shouldn’t be prosecuted for having sex with girls who are under 16. What he was saying was that teenagers often have relationships with boys or girls who are under 16 and that maybe this shouldn’t be classed as paedophilia e.g. a 17 year old boy sleeping with his 15 year old girlfriend. He said this kind of relationship happens all across the country all the time and questioned whether it was reasonable to prosecute every teen who has sex with someone who isn’t 16 yet.
But just because something happens (that is illegal) doesn’t mean we should change the law or the way the law is implemented to make allowances for this prevalence. Drug taking, drink driving and assault are all prevalent across the country but no one would suggest anything less than the full force of the law- a drink driver is a drink driver and a paedophile is a paedophile- end of story
This CHIEF CONSTABLE said someone who is 20 or 30 who has sex with a 13 year old girl should not be considered a peadophile. Well excuse me but I don’t care if a 13 year old lies buck naked in front of me n says “f/uck me”- I am an adult and have a responsiblity to that child n that does not include having sex with them.
@mr Bigstuff wrote:
. I don’t think he should be sacked for pointing out the reality of the society we live in.
No, he should be made to sit in counselling sessions where vulnerable 13 and 14 year olds sob whilst describing being abused by men who have identified their vulnerability and abused their trust to rape them
Yes, whilst reading through this I wondered why this point hadn’t been addressed…altho our culture promotes misogyny and a lot of young girls now act like their male counter parts that doesn’t give them the right to abuse. I believe that both genders should be taught respect for human beings, but sadly a huge percentage are not receiving those guidelines.
With regard to the sexualising of young children and morality beginning at home, I read with horror yesterday, the story of a young Scottish girl..aged ten..whose parents are uprooting themselves and her, to America, in order for the child to pursue her dream of becoming the next Christine Aguilera. Ten years of age! Pity help her!
@slayer wrote:
@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
You misunderstood what he said. He didn’t say that men 20+ shouldn’t be prosecuted for having sex with girls who are under 16. What he was saying was that teenagers often have relationships with boys or girls who are under 16 and that maybe this shouldn’t be classed as paedophilia e.g. a 17 year old boy sleeping with his 15 year old girlfriend. He said this kind of relationship happens all across the country all the time and questioned whether it was reasonable to prosecute every teen who has sex with someone who isn’t 16 yet.
But just because something happens (that is illegal) doesn’t mean we should change the law or the way the law is implemented to make allowances for this prevalence. Drug taking, drink driving and assault are all prevalent across the country but no one would suggest anything less than the full force of the law- a drink driver is a drink driver and a paedophile is a paedophile- end of story
This CHIEF CONSTABLE said someone who is 20 or 30 who has sex with a 13 year old girl should not be considered a peadophile. Well excuse me but I don’t care if a 13 year old lies buck naked in front of me n says “f/uck me”- I am an adult and have a responsiblity to that child n that does not include having sex with them.
@mr Bigstuff wrote:
. I don’t think he should be sacked for pointing out the reality of the society we live in.
No, he should be made to sit in counselling sessions where vulnerable 13 and 14 year olds sob whilst describing being abused by men who have identified their vulnerability and abused their trust to rape them
O sorry to butt in, but young lady today are, not all way honest, ok about their age, and unless its tatooed, on their forhead, how can u be shaw she eighteen, !!!!!!!!!!!!!! is a female,40 plus, a pea o file, if she has a afair with a thirteen year old boy, yes or no
it happen, underage sex,grey area, ok, and thats wott its all about, {paedophile , class by law< haveing sex with a miner,. ps man 50 years old pay girl , for sex. girl under , is 14 years off age
case ???????????????? big question the old fool didnt know, !!!!!!!!!!!! how do u tell
but u will end u on the sex register. as a pea ofile,,,,,, lol it can go either way,
!1 in liverpool town centre 2 am, girl drunk wearing sexy clothes , age unknowen,,,, girls will be girls, some, thing to tell er glass mate on ,school days, ok
elvis , marry a young girl , was he a peaoplhile, great singer, all the film star marry young girls, it all about , status, know children , know er own kids, have ing fun,
who gets the blame, tv media papers , US parents
@slayer wrote:
@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
You misunderstood what he said. He didn’t say that men 20+ shouldn’t be prosecuted for having sex with girls who are under 16. What he was saying was that teenagers often have relationships with boys or girls who are under 16 and that maybe this shouldn’t be classed as paedophilia e.g. a 17 year old boy sleeping with his 15 year old girlfriend. He said this kind of relationship happens all across the country all the time and questioned whether it was reasonable to prosecute every teen who has sex with someone who isn’t 16 yet.
But just because something happens (that is illegal) doesn’t mean we should change the law or the way the law is implemented to make allowances for this prevalence. Drug taking, drink driving and assault are all prevalent across the country but no one would suggest anything less than the full force of the law- a drink driver is a drink driver and a paedophile is a paedophile- end of story
This CHIEF CONSTABLE said someone who is 20 or 30 who has sex with a 13 year old girl should not be considered a peadophile. Well excuse me but I don’t care if a 13 year old lies buck naked in front of me n says “f/uck me”- I am an adult and have a responsiblity to that child n that does not include having sex with them.
@mr Bigstuff wrote:
. I don’t think he should be sacked for pointing out the reality of the society we live in.
No, he should be made to sit in counselling sessions where vulnerable 13 and 14 year olds sob whilst describing being abused by men who have identified their vulnerability and abused their trust to rape them
I think you’re missing the point, he’s just reflecting the reality of the situation that a lot of teenagers are having physical relationships of some kind and, in most European countries, it wouldn’t even be a crime. So is it reasonable to call it paedophilia in the UK and to try to prosecute all those teens engaging in it?
Consider this hypothetical situation, if a 20 yr old man had slept with Billie Piper or Jessica Simpson when they first came into the public eye around the age of 15, should he be put in the same category as that guy who kidnapped and raped a 6 yr. old? Or if any other man found either of them the least bit attractive (considering they looked no different than they do now) would that mean that they were paedophiles too?
All he was saying is that we should show some common sense when it comes to teenage relationships. Also, girls between the ages of 13-15 fall into a grey area and that there should be a different classification for anyone 20+ who gets involved with a girl of that age. He made it absolutely clear that it should still be illegal but classified differently. He’s not condoning or defending adults having sex with girls of that age but I think he’s implying that girls in that grey area can sometimes be indistinguishable from girls who are already 16 which is why it should be classed differently to sex with girls who haven’t even hit puberty.
@fergie50 wrote:
@slayer wrote:
@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
You misunderstood what he said. He didn’t say that men 20+ shouldn’t be prosecuted for having sex with girls who are under 16. What he was saying was that teenagers often have relationships with boys or girls who are under 16 and that maybe this shouldn’t be classed as paedophilia e.g. a 17 year old boy sleeping with his 15 year old girlfriend. He said this kind of relationship happens all across the country all the time and questioned whether it was reasonable to prosecute every teen who has sex with someone who isn’t 16 yet.
But just because something happens (that is illegal) doesn’t mean we should change the law or the way the law is implemented to make allowances for this prevalence. Drug taking, drink driving and assault are all prevalent across the country but no one would suggest anything less than the full force of the law- a drink driver is a drink driver and a paedophile is a paedophile- end of story
This CHIEF CONSTABLE said someone who is 20 or 30 who has sex with a 13 year old girl should not be considered a peadophile. Well excuse me but I don’t care if a 13 year old lies buck naked in front of me n says “f/uck me”- I am an adult and have a responsiblity to that child n that does not include having sex with them.
@mr Bigstuff wrote:
. I don’t think he should be sacked for pointing out the reality of the society we live in.
No, he should be made to sit in counselling sessions where vulnerable 13 and 14 year olds sob whilst describing being abused by men who have identified their vulnerability and abused their trust to rape them
O sorry to butt in, but young lady today are, not all way honest, ok about their age, and unless its tatooed, on their forhead, how can u be shaw she eighteen, !!!!!!!!!!!!!! is a female,40 plus, a pea o file, if she has a afair with a thirteen year old boy, yes or no
it happen, underage sex,grey area, ok, and thats wott its all about, {paedophile , class by law< haveing sex with a miner,. ps man 50 years old pay girl , for sex. girl under , is 14 years off age
case ???????????????? big question the old fool didnt know, !!!!!!!!!!!! how do u tell
but u will end u on the sex register. as a pea ofile,,,,,, lol it can go either way,
fergie you are asking the same question i was trying to get across!
does that mean that every girl who had sex under the age of 16 in the uk or 18 in the usa to a bloke older than the legal age therefore making the bloke a minor, does that mean that their boyfriends where paedophiles?
@token_male wrote:
@fergie50 wrote:
@slayer wrote:
@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
You misunderstood what he said. He didn’t say that men 20+ shouldn’t be prosecuted for having sex with girls who are under 16. What he was saying was that teenagers often have relationships with boys or girls who are under 16 and that maybe this shouldn’t be classed as paedophilia e.g. a 17 year old boy sleeping with his 15 year old girlfriend. He said this kind of relationship happens all across the country all the time and questioned whether it was reasonable to prosecute every teen who has sex with someone who isn’t 16 yet.
But just because something happens (that is illegal) doesn’t mean we should change the law or the way the law is implemented to make allowances for this prevalence. Drug taking, drink driving and assault are all prevalent across the country but no one would suggest anything less than the full force of the law- a drink driver is a drink driver and a paedophile is a paedophile- end of story
This CHIEF CONSTABLE said someone who is 20 or 30 who has sex with a 13 year old girl should not be considered a peadophile. Well excuse me but I don’t care if a 13 year old lies buck naked in front of me n says “f/uck me”- I am an adult and have a responsiblity to that child n that does not include having sex with them.
@mr Bigstuff wrote:
. I don’t think he should be sacked for pointing out the reality of the society we live in.
No, he should be made to sit in counselling sessions where vulnerable 13 and 14 year olds sob whilst describing being abused by men who have identified their vulnerability and abused their trust to rape them
O sorry to butt in, but young lady today are, not all way honest, ok about their age, and unless its tatooed, on their forhead, how can u be shaw she eighteen, !!!!!!!!!!!!!! is a female,40 plus, a pea o file, if she has a afair with a thirteen year old boy, yes or no
it happen, underage sex,grey area, ok, and thats wott its all about, {paedophile , class by law< haveing sex with a miner,. ps man 50 years old pay girl , for sex. girl under , is 14 years off age
case ???????????????? big question the old fool didnt know, !!!!!!!!!!!! how do u tell
but u will end u on the sex register. as a pea ofile,,,,,, lol it can go either way,
fergie you are asking the same question i was trying to get across!
does that mean that every girl who had sex under the age of 16 in the uk or 18 in the usa to a bloke older than the legal age therefore making the bloke a minor, does that mean that their boyfriends where paedophiles?
I know u are, i agree
the law, can go either way, its a grey area, this copper, speaks the truth,
Hiya Cath, you know how I feel on this kind of subject and I too was all for calling for him to be sacked, until I listened again to what he said on last nights news.
It is a bit of a grey area…….and I have to say that what he says about a boy of 15 having sex with a girl of 13/14 shouldn’t automatically be classed a peadophile, it is what kids do now. There was a girl of 12 years old on the TV yesterday saying she wanted a baby, wanted 3 by the time she was 16, then the council would give her a nice house to live in and the benefits would give her money to live on, how true is that one!! only have to look around your local high st at the amount of gymslip mums, children bringing up children.
I work in a social industry, off license to you lot lol. Some of the young girls who come in there on fri and sat nights!! jeeeeeeez, im glad iv’e not got daughters! They lie to me about their age, (they still don’t get served without producing ID) so theyre going to lie to the nice looking bloke in the nightclub huh, who might be 18 / 20 ? Can we seriously class that person as a peadophile if he ends up having sex with her, and THEN! finding out she’s only 14. It’s a really dodgy area.
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