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    Actually, they are refugees.

    The BBC should stop calling them migrants.

    But here are photographs of some of them. Warning. They are not nice photos, so you have to click continue if you really want to see them.

    Imagine they’re your children, fleeing a major humanitarian catastrophe.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9fc_1440772745

    These put the horrible comments I’ve heard on this chat site into some perspective

    #528396

    Heartbreaking those pictures..they made me cry.

    I think the vast numbers we are seeing at the moment are due to word getting round Britain is getting tough on immigration. Word spreads like wildfire…so obviously these people are trying to get in as quickly as possible….they all must feel they will make it…no one thinks that they could lose family members along the way to their destination otherwise they would not take such risks…then again the risks must be less than staying in their own country.

    Unfortunately Scep the solution isn’t as simple as we would want it to be…..recent years of immigration to this country has led people living here to believe that mostly they are scroungers…they see them getting big houses and benefits at the drop of a hat whilst seeing their own children with families struggling to be housed…that is also a fact

    I dont know what the solution is…it cannot be just letting all these people safely through the door…it is fact our rescources are being pushed to the limit….and I know I am sounding hypocritcal here….being from immigrants parents myself

    All I am saying is…what is the solution?
    In an ideal world we would let them in…but increase doctors surgeries…schools…dentist…houseing all live in perfect harmony…but we dont live in an ideal world….and the resentment all this is causing is leading alot of yougsters to be against immigration full stop…”its our country and we get nothing”…you cant blame younsters for t hinking like that when they cant get a house to rent…

    Compassion and humanity is losing its way

    #528397

    Yes, they are heartbreaking pictures, Ms K.

    But these people aren’t trying to get into Britain. They are refugees, not migrants. They go wherever they can live – the UK is a nice destination if you an get there, but not many people can get to the UK because of the Schengen Agreement which the UK refuses to sign. Germany gives better benefits and living conditions, which is why 800 thousand people, 1% of the German population, is expected to settle there this year (migrants and refugees).

    These children drowned in the Mediterranean fleeing the chaos in Syria and Libya, among other countries. If they stay, they face a dreadful civil war condition – IS now use the tactics of mass drowning in cages of men, women and children against those who don’t fit into their death cult approach, as just one example.

    The solution? Well, we caused some of it – the UK spent 13 times more bombing Libya into chaos than it has done in reconstructing the country.

    The solution has to be to work with the EU to deal wiht the symptoms of the problem.

    The German people by an overwhelming majority accept the need to absorb the refugees as a temporary measure (there was a UN Convetion on on Refugees in 1951).

    The Brits talk about these children as a ‘swarm’ – instead the UK needs to get stuck in the EU and work hard for a humanitarian solution to a growing catastrophe.

    #528398

    The Dublin Regulation (Regulation No. 604/2013; sometimes the Dublin III Regulation; previously the Dublin II Regulation and Dublin Convention) is a European Union (EU) law that determines the EU Member State responsible to examine an application for asylum seekers seeking international protection under the Geneva Convention and the EU Qualification Directive, within the European Union. It is the cornerstone of the Dublin System, which consists of the Dublin Regulation and the EURODAC Regulation, which establishes a Europe-wide fingerprinting database for unauthorised entrants to the EU. The Dublin Regulation aims to “determine rapidly the Member State responsible [for an asylum claim]”[1] and provides for the transfer of an asylum seeker to that Member State. Usually, the responsible Member State will be the state through which the asylum seeker first entered the EU.

    That’s anywhere but the UK really. There isn’t really a solution as far as I can see. Defeat IS and something else will take it’s place, but there also has to be a limit on how many we can take, or any EU state can accomadate for that matter

    #528399

    so what is the limit?

    We have a responsibility to ensure the care of refugees. Why do you think the UK can’t take more refugees?

    As the UK is a member of the EU, that involves a EU-wide obligation to distribute people fairly. That has been formally agreed by all member-states of the EU, even Ireland which was reluctant. Only the UK and Hungary refuse.

    In practice, Italy and Germany take the bulk, Italy being angry about it all. Merkel says that the Dublin Agreement is a dead letter unless all states agree to the redistribution in such a crisis. Cameron’s moaning about swarms doesn’t sit well with more humanitarian countries.

    #528400

    Where do they go.. how much does it cost

    #528401

    If the Governments of the U>K and U.S.A would stop selling arms to these war torn countries, but then, there is money to be made in warfare. dontcha know !

    #528402

    As heart braking as their plight is scep , this country is in almost complete chaos & falling apart around out ears.

    I am all for helping people out in times of need but the UK needs to put it’s own house in order before bailing others out.

    Yeah maybe a bit harsh but, no worse than the media using pictures of the kids to tug at our heart strings & make us feel bad.

    Realistically how many of those poor kids made the choice to flee? My guess is none. They were brought by their parents …..

    Fact they all want to come here because everything is handed to them on a plate if they make it.

    #528403

    Graffiti near a Calais migrant camp

    #528404

    drown em then…

    how callous!

    This country is not falling apart, arc, it’s one of the mroe successful countries in Europe.

    The media are not throwing these pictures at us. The BBC won’t show them.

    I was talking t o a friend who had seen the pics of HMS Sheffield after it had been hit by an exocet. The Government put out a D-notice, and they couldn’t show them. Political implications.

    These could have been avoided. Only one British ship is patrolling the Mediterranean to stop the human trafficking, and the number of dead are starting to pile up.

    They are refugees fleeing from a war zone. God help anyone who comes to some of you lot for help.

    Other countries have people who are less cruel, and don’t turn their backs on suffering. This country is easily able to absorb refugees, and has a human duty to do so. Especially as much of the suffering is caused by this country’s greed for oil and decision to invade Iraq and Libya..

    It’s about time for people to actually remember that they are human beings before they are British, then the name of Britain might mean something civilised.

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