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26 September, 2007 at 2:51 pm #288318
@forumhostpb wrote:
So just to clear up a few misunderstandings about the Media reporting – and the expressions of mass outrage and hysterical ranting that followed.
The location where the children drowned wasn’t a ”little pond” – it was a flooded former mine pit near Wigan where the dark brackish water is more than two metres deep at the edges and further out drops right down really deep (into the old mine shaft?)
It was fenced off to prevent access by the public and there were signposts all around the perimeter warning of the dangerous waters and prohibiting swimming.
The PCSO’s were called by a member of the public who hadn’t seen little Bethany get into trouble but apparently did see Jordon Lyon trying to rescue her – and drowning in the brave attempt.
When the PCSO’s arrived, the surface of the water was still with no sign that anybody was underneath. Even assuming that they could swim (and loads of people can’t) it is utterly insane to expect them to go into the water somewhere or other and start an underwater search – not even being sure where to begin – and with no equipment at all.
In any event the incident had happened some time previously to their arrival, so no they didn’t just stand by and watch the little boy drown (as was hysterically reported in the tabloid press) – in all probability he was already dead …. somewhere under water.
The golden rule of lifesaving is to consider the danger to yourself first, because increasing the casualty count only increases the problem. Jumping into the deep black water blind, having no idea where any bodies may be located, would be the last thing you’d do.
So now Mrs Ganderton hurls abuse at the Police in general and all PCSO’s in particular – egged on by her semi-literate partner – saying that she wants the PCSO’s named and shamed and she wants a second inquiry into the death of her son.
Well she seems to want an awful lot – how about she also tells the Media why she permitted three children all under the age of 10 to go roaming totally unsupervised in such a dangerous spot in the first place?????
She might even have taken the time and trouble to educate them to stay away from that area or better still ensure that they were taught how to swim. At least she would still have three children now, instead of blaming everybody else for her lack of parental care.
HAAAAAAALELUYAAAAAAY TO DAT :P :P :P
26 September, 2007 at 9:07 pm #288319So they were right to just stand there and “presume” they were dead cos they couldnt see anything?
I dunno…. we have another 10,000 of these PCSO’s due on the streets over the next few years and I hope none of my kids get themselves in a bit of trouble for these to just stand by and “presume”.
Kids are kids and accidents happen every day. Turn your back and anything can happen and does happen.
Im not interested in where there parents were or why they were there but the fact was an accident occured and they were there, and could have at least tried to do something.
They could have at least got their socks wet. :shock:
I really hope little Jordan does get some sort of post homous (spl) award for trying to save his (obviously) beloved little sister, bless her.
And you can stick your PCSO’s up your arse and give us some proper coppers while we’re at it who have a bit of backbone and are not robots.
(sorry to insult any robots out there).
26 September, 2007 at 9:19 pm #288320And i forgot to say whilst I was ranting that the two fisherman should also be awarded. For bothering to give a shit.
Not many people seem to nowadays.
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