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16 May, 2008 at 12:02 am #335950
I would never choose to willingly end my own life, I have no religious faith whatsoever, I don’t believe that you’go to a happier place’. All that happens is that you die and all that remains behind is a corpse and a memory and the thing with those is that after a while they become buried and forgotten. another phrase pops into my head ‘to be forgotten is a fate worse than death’
16 May, 2008 at 12:16 am #335951I think what we have to remember is will to live and bravery to get through and determination.
Im sympathising with Mary here as I watched my FIL die 6 years ago this september, and his last 24 hours in a hospital bed could have been either better spent in a hospice or ended faster.
Even though he could harldly speak because of the cancer in his throat and the drugs he kept pulling his mask off and whispering “home”. Poor Dave’s mum regreted calling the ambulance. Nurses were nowhere to be seen when we really needed them. He was pulling his legs up to his chest in agony (all 6 stone of him in the end) as the morphine was running low.
He messed and wet himself and there was nobody to help change him. He was aware of this, Im sure.
We did finally get a nice room for the final 45 minutes and that is when he decided it was right. Clean PJ’s and morphine on tap. It may sound awful to say but the last breath was a relief. It went on for ages…. there would be a breath and we would think he was gone, but then there would be another one. Cant have been nice for his wife my MIL bless her.
When people are soo sooo close I do think when they are riddled inside with a horrific disease that is killing them, we should be able to help medically somehow, via a small OD.
16 May, 2008 at 12:26 am #335952@Forget Me Not wrote:
I would never choose to willingly end my own life, I have no religious faith whatsoever, I don’t believe that you’go to a happier place’. All that happens is that you die and all that remains behind is a corpse and a memory and the thing with those is that after a while they become buried and forgotten. another phrase pops into my head ‘to be forgotten is a fate worse than death’
That’s a shame, I was hoping you would exercise that right, right now.
16 May, 2008 at 12:28 am #335953I love the way you attack those that don’t find you very consuming Andrew… it shows your intelligence to a tee.
Now let me think, are you ‘following’ forget?
16 May, 2008 at 12:33 am #335954cant you two at least leave one thread alone (this one??)
Ive put some really personal stuff on here as have others.
Have a bit of respect guys. 8)
16 May, 2008 at 12:57 pm #335955Suicide was in fact a crime in the United Kingdom until 1961 when suicide was decriminalized with the Suicide Act 1961.
Anyone committing that particular crime prior to 1961 would forfeit their estate to the Crown.
It’s a good thing that this “”crime”” has been abolished but even nowadays people attempting to commit suicide but fail will be locked up under the Mental Health Act albeit it often only for a short time and under the excuse of observation.But to go back to the point in question, I am all for people being allowed to choose their own end and I believe that people who are terminally ill should be given help in ending their own life as happens in some clinic in Switzerland, I believe. I believe it’s done under the mantle of voluntary euthanasia. Euthanasia has had some real bad press in the last 100 years but if we translate the word literally from greek to english it means “”Good Death”” and I don’t see why someone should be suffering for years or being completely dependable on tubes, computers and all sorts of other gadgetry. This is neither life nor humane but I dare say that the God Squad will disagree and come with the arguement that life has been given by God, whatever that is, and God alone should take it or at least dicide when the persons time has come.
How are we to know that that God didn’t tell those affected to take their own life? Let the people decide.16 May, 2008 at 2:42 pm #335956@Forget Me Not wrote:
I would never choose to willingly end my own life, I have no religious faith whatsoever, I don’t believe that you’go to a happier place’. All that happens is that you die and all that remains behind is a corpse and a memory and the thing with those is that after a while they become buried and forgotten. another phrase pops into my head ‘to be forgotten is a fate worse than death’
How do you know what happens when you die? Have you died and come back as a spirit that can use the internet to inform us all that there is no afterlife (therefore debunking your own views)? I am an athiest, but i am spiritually open enough to believe in some form of afterlife. All too often people misconstrue not having religious faith as not being spiritual.
To me, euthanasia, assisted suicide, or just plain old suicide, what ever ya want to call it, is a persons basic human right. It is our body, we should be allowed to do what the hell we want with it, as long as it harms no one else, and if we are incapable of physically doing the deed ourselves, should be free to have someone assist us without them having fear of retribution.
I have great admiration for people that assist others that are suffering, in whatever capacity. In the cases of those that have assisted someone to die, it must have taken a great deal of emotional strength, love and compassion, not to mention a great deal of soul searching before commiting to such an act. Before anyone condemns another person for either commiting suicide, or wishing to help someone commit suicide for whatever reason, you should walk a mile in their shoes first, and see whether you would have the strength to go through with it.
16 May, 2008 at 3:21 pm #335957technically doesn’t that mean that you’re agnostic
16 May, 2008 at 3:44 pm #335958Technically, i am not an agnostic, but an atheist. I do not dispute there being an afterlife, i do however dispute there being a god. You can question whether you have a soul or not, and question what happens to it when you die, without needing a religious conviction that there is a supreme being. :)
17 May, 2008 at 8:49 pm #335959@cymorill wrote:
Technically, i am not an agnostic, but an atheist. I do not dispute there being an afterlife, i do however dispute there being a god. You can question whether you have a soul or not, and question what happens to it when you die, without needing a religious conviction that there is a supreme being. :)
excuse my ignorance whats a agnostic..?? well said Cymorill,
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