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    Your argument is anti pole.. it’s our governments fault not theres, but nobody ever mentions them, only the polish workers. Ok hate taken literally is too strong a word, but then it wasn’t meant literally, so let’s substitute hate with resent.
    I’d sod off tomorrow to Poland if it was reversed and so would you.. as for assumptions.. i read what you typed, if you dont like my assumptions try putting your point over better :wink:

    #410654

    Cas

    @thin ice wrote:

    @pete wrote:

    Then berate our government and not the migrant workers.

    As for minimum wage.. if it wasnt set it’d be lower

    not sure i agree pete
    i think the minimum wage sinario has kept wages down companys just shrug and say we pay minimum wage take it or leave it and then exploit migrant workers who have little or no choice
    lets be honest who can live a decent life on minimum wage


    Pete does have a point that if there wasn’t a minimum wage set, albeit not exactly a huge amount, it would be even lower, it is in some parts of the country. There are unscrupulous business people paying illegals! a pittance. The law, fortunately, is coming down more and more on them, as it should.

    As for living a decent life on minimum wage Thin. I never said it was easy, it isn’t, so in one way I agree. But people would be entitled to other benefits, ie., housing and council tax benefits, if you have children to support there are other allowances you can get which all added together, gives people a fairly decent standard of living.

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    @cas wrote:

    But people would be entitled to other benefits, ie., housing and council tax benefits, if you have children to support there are other allowances you can get which all added together, gives people a fairly decent standard of living.[/color]

    By experience . . . totally disagree with that

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    Cas

    @susieq wrote:

    @cas wrote:

    But people would be entitled to other benefits, ie., housing and council tax benefits, if you have children to support there are other allowances you can get which all added together, gives people a fairly decent standard of living.[/color]

    By experience . . . totally disagree with that

    Fair enough Susie, I don’t know your experiences, I have benefited myself tho. A freind also, who works. Her eldest son has just left home, bought his own property, but she still has two boys at home, one at college and one at school. She also works, housing/council tax benefits, the working familys tax credits etc., all make up for her enjoying a fairly decent standard of living. Yea there are some things she can’t afford, she doesn’t go on holiday etc., but she says herself, I have my self respect.

    #410657

    One thing would stand in our way if the roles were reversed and thats the sheer ignorance that british people have in learning a new language, all credit where it is due the Polish learn English and try to integrate. I wish the same could be said of other ethnic minorities in the Uk and the British when travelling abroad.

    mówię pozwalany Język polski przybywać do i łączyć do naszego społeczeństwa, wierzę w rozmaitość i wolność. :)

    Secondly there seems to be too much emphasis on this being Polish… where I live its extremely diverse and I live along side of Croatians, Turks, Italians, Chinese, Pakistanis, Indians, Polish, Greek, Kosovans, Portuguese… I could go on… and my point is they all come in the Uk and take up jobs which could be taken by British people but the fact of the matter is our country heavily relies on alot of these people. The NHS itself would crumble to a halt because a high percentage of jobs and careers within it are taken by foreign nationals. Its not so easy as saying british jobs for british workers, Britain has a huge dependant population due to people of pensionable age living longer than ever and children yet to be able to be employed. The working population is insufficient to cope the with demand that these people put on the UK’s monetary resources and therefore it’s in our best interests to have foreign nationals here paying taxes and contributing to the supply of workforce.
    Instead of arguing about those willing to work in the UK we should be looking at the factors that surround why there are so few jobs, mostly because British jobs are being outsourced to asian and other countries where people are more than happy to work for next to nothing. We should be blaming the companies and the government not the people at the heart of this discussion. Lastly, might I add that the Uk should maybe embrace the points systems that other countried like Canada and Australia have when people are trying to come into the country to work. Food for thought…..I wonder if the Spanish hated the British ex-pats who went over there and took their jobs as much as some here in the UK seem to hate other foreign nationals… but we as a society thought it was our human right to be able to go to spain, australia, canada… anywhere we desire… you can’t have one rule for one nation and another for others!

    #410658

    pete read my posts as ive sed we want migrants to be equal , we want them to have the same conditions and make the same money as we do , and as ive also said its british that are being frozen out not migrants , all very quick to make comments about them just wantin a better life etc , well so do we , its us thats being descriminated against not them

    #410659

    and as u can see melody i always use the word migrants not poles

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    Cas

    @tictax wrote:

    pete read my posts as ive sed we want migrants to be equal , we want them to have the same conditions and make the same money as we do , and as ive also said its british that are being frozen out not migrants , all very quick to make comments about them just wantin a better life etc , well so do we , its us thats being descriminated against not them

    How are we being discriminated Tic.

    If some of the brit workers, who wont get out of bed in the morning for the wage that they will, how is that their fault.

    #410661

    people obviousely arent readin all the posts , cas ive been on strike several times this year over brits being frozen out for jobs on there doorsteps ” british workers need not apply ” and thats a quote

    #410662

    @tictax wrote:

    pete read my posts as ive sed we want migrants to be equal , we want them to have the same conditions and make the same money as we do , and as ive also said its british that are being frozen out not migrants , all very quick to make comments about them just wantin a better life etc , well so do we , its us thats being descriminated against not them

    Not by them though, the barb if you like is aimed at the migrants not at the system that allows them to do it

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