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    lets spare a thought for all those are homeless over this festive period
    whilst most of us fill our faces in the warmth of our homes on christmas day think of those who rely on soup kitchens and the like
    and lets think about the wonderfull work the Salvation Army does
    and hope and pray that it never happens to us

    #457684

    The homeless will survive.

    I shall print off your words Bob the Builder and get to wrapping A4 sheets of paper around them this instant.
    Aye, that should do it.

    Why is this site specialising in cretins ?

    #457685

    @toybulldog wrote:

    The homeless will survive.

    I shall print off your words Bob the Builder and get to wrapping A4 sheets of paper around them this instant.
    Aye, that should do it.

    Why is this site specialising in cretins ?

    unadulterated prat you are

    #457686

    eve

    @toybulldog wrote:

    The homeless will survive.

    I shall print off your words Bob the Builder and get to wrapping A4 sheets of paper around them this instant.
    Aye, that should do it.

    Why is this site specialising in cretins ?

    I cant believe that this was actually typed.

    Every single one of us is only 4 paychecks away from beging homeless.

    No one sets out to live on the street. its not all drug addicts and alkies and even the ppl with thos problems have a right to warmth and food and shelter!
    Homelessness is one of my own personal nightmares and my own personal choice of charity. The salvation army do a wonderful job and need all the help they can get.

    the Homeless will survive?? In a doorway in this weather??! Jesus Wept!!!

    #457687

    Thanks for that thought, Thin, it’s good to have our minds broadened in a noble way.

    It is unfortunate that ‘the homeless’ will survive until we as a society decide to eradicate the causes of homelessness – which includes building the kind of personal support and wider inclusion which would make having a home a better ‘choice’ for those who might balk at more conventional society.

    But it is also tragic that many homeless people have not survived because of their homelessness and that here in the fourth or fifth richest country in the world, homeless individuals will die in their hundreds this and every winter. If we can find the energy to do something to help them survive we should.

    There used to be a man who slept in the stairs by the viaduct near where I worked and along with the rest of my colleagues we all complained about the smell, because he obviously defecated near where he slept. Only one of my colleagues actually sat with him and listened to his story, which I have since found out it is very common. An ex-soldier, you know those ‘heroes’ people like to go on about, whose marriage and family had split up and whose subsequent depression had left him unable to negotiate the existing provision from state and charities.

    So I’ll be quietly thankful as I look at my two teenage ‘babies’ sucking the pizza topping off their fingers in a warm room with an illuminated tree and remember that my ‘problems’ are just minor irritations compared to many.

    #457688

    There are far too many people who cannot negotiate the reams of paperwork and endless interviews and proofs that are required to obtain the bare minimum for existence in our careless society. If they are lucky enough to have family members or friends to help them, they can make headway, but many are literally left out in the cold.

    They drop through ever widening holes in the net that is supposed to protect those most vulnerable. And it isn’t just the homeless, elderly people, people with learning difficulties, people with borderline psychiatric problems. Care in a community…..that doesn’t.

    And there are others who know how to use the system, obtain far more than they are entitled and make it ever harder for the truly deserving.

    #457689

    And for those that do twist the system to their advantage all the luck in the world to them, and the idiots who castigate them in the belief that this government or any other government will allocate the funds saved in that way to benefit the needy, seriously need to take their head out of their arse.

    #457690

    this is not information i impart usually, but from first hand experience being homeless is very scary and fraught with dangers. when i left a violent marriage with only what i stood up in and a 2 year old daughter i moved down to bletchley to do a living in job, when that job finished milton keynes council wouldnt house me because i hadnt been here long enough and birmingham city council wouldnt house me (where i came from) because i had been gone too long!! i begged them to find me somthing but no one , but no one would help.

    this is when i spent 2 weeks homeless, sleeping mainly on new street station because it was well lit and at that time you had a lot of activity overnight, it was before the time of cctv cameras in fact it was 30 years ago and the world to be honest wasnt as scarier place as it is now. i was old enough to remember the documentary ‘cathy come home’ where her kids were taken into caree and i was terrified most of the time. you didnt see beggars in the street then so much as u do now and i basically llived on my wits, stealing small and only absolutely necessary things from shops , using the child benefit to get myself and my daughter warm meals when we needed to, but, we got by.

    i wont go into the ins and outs of how we got out of it but we did and i got a council place in milton keynes moved in with a box of toys , a suitcase and 2 matresses the council liaison bloke got for us and i have been here eveer since.

    the number of runnaways tho even then , young teenagers ffrom terrible terrible backgrounds there wasnt the network they have now but its an experience i thank god only lasted 2 weeks i had to go the then publiic health place and be deloused tuts , but dont knock anyone till u have walked a mile in their shoes, some very very sad cases out there, theres a lad on our estate who got caught up in the twilgih world of drugs same age as my daughter, i noow always think ‘therebut for the grace of god go I’ and i concur thin, yes we should of course be thinking of those who dont have what we have, not only the homeless here, but evryone who for one reason or a nother doesnt have the luxury of a warm home, and loving family xx

    #457691

    @minim wrote:

    ………And there are others who know how to use the system, obtain far more than they are entitled and make it ever harder for the truly deserving.

    Well said mimim, but the truth is that it’s not those who fiddle the system who design it. They will exploit loopholes of any kind and there will always be loopholes.

    In a society that leave reckless bankers in charge of the economy and forgive “friendly fire” and “collateral damage” the response to a (usually overstated) number of cheats does less to prevent cheating than to victimise the most needy (anyone care to guess whether the retesting of every disability claimant is going to save anything like what it will cost?)

    Gesture politics rules! But not in a good way.

    #457692

    @cath 55 wrote:

    this is not information i impart usually, but from first hand experience being homeless is very scary and fraught with dangers. when i left a violent marriage with only what i stood up in and a 2 year old daughter i moved down to bletchley to do a living in job, when that job finished milton keynes council wouldnt house me because i hadnt been here long enough and birmingham city council wouldnt house me (where i came from) because i had been gone too long!! i begged them to find me somthing but no one , but no one would help.

    this is when i spent 2 weeks homeless, sleeping mainly on new street station because it was well lit and at that time you had a lot of activity overnight, it was before the time of cctv cameras in fact it was 30 years ago and the world to be honest wasnt as scarier place as it is now. i was old enough to remember the documentary ‘cathy come home’ where her kids were taken into caree and i was terrified most of the time. you didnt see beggars in the street then so much as u do now and i basically llived on my wits, stealing small and only absolutely necessary things from shops , using the child benefit to get myself and my daughter warm meals when we needed to, but, we got by.

    i wont go into the ins and outs of how we got out of it but we did and i got a council place in milton keynes moved in with a box of toys , a suitcase and 2 matresses the council liaison bloke got for us and i have been here eveer since.

    the number of runnaways tho even then , young teenagers ffrom terrible terrible backgrounds there wasnt the network they have now but its an experience i thank god only lasted 2 weeks i had to go the then publiic health place and be deloused tuts , but dont knock anyone till u have walked a mile in their shoes, some very very sad cases out there, theres a lad on our estate who got caught up in the twilgih world of drugs same age as my daughter, i noow always think ‘therebut for the grace of god go I’ and i concur thin, yes we should of course be thinking of those who dont have what we have, not only the homeless here, but evryone who for one reason or a nother doesnt have the luxury of a warm home, and loving family xx

    Poor mites, it’s as well they wern’t starved of oxygen isn’t it.

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