The great global warming swindle

But if I just chucked it out the front it wouldnt look pretty would it?!

Surely re-cycling has a point. Recycle your paper should in thrrory = less destruction of trees?

I have a big bug bear with this subject, as a parrot lover, Im really concerned about the destruction of rain forests and only a small teeny weeny percent is for paper. The rest is for cheaply manufactured furniture and its all run by little Hitlers in south America. If Mr Bush wants to do something he could look at that small problem that will bring about a huge amount of popularity (which is top of his cards at the mo…..)

Must just say, its not just parrots, its all the wildlife that live there, millions of species of all animals/birds big and small.

@emmalush wrote:

@sharongooner wrote:

But if I just chucked it out the front it wouldnt look pretty would it?!

Put it in the bin (not recycle). Burn it.

Surely re-cycling has a point. Recycle your paper should in thrrory = less destruction of trees?

We could plant a million trees a day IF we wanted.

Im really concerned about the destruction of rain forests

As above, lets grow trees.

If Mr Bush wants to do something he could look at that small problem that will bring about a huge amount of popularity (which is top of his cards at the mo…..)

So its about popularity, not principle and good policy?

I do not disagree Emma, was just pointing out he needs a vote winning tactic and its about time an American leader approached this subject. My admired and late friend Mr S Irwin would be leaping about like a frog in a box if he heard the subject discussed at congress level, I hope one day soon it will be, rather than all this clap trap about ozone layers.

And its all good you saying lets grow trees. You have to confront the ones chopping them down first donut!!! :wink:

I just watched this programme, belatedly, as it was recorded.

I would count myself as an environmentalist but I have never been convinced by the the CO2 scare story. As I understood we had a model for how increasing CO2 in the atmosphere would tend to assist in raising temperatures but now that even seems to be questionable, and in fact increased CO2 is possibly a product of natural warming.

It would seem that our current trend of rising temperatures is most likely to be just natural variation – temperatures rose from 1900-1949, cooled from 1949-1975 and have been rising from 1975. During the time when temperatures were cooling (I remember this) we were told by some scientists that we were possibly entering the next Ice Age!

Global annual average temperature variations seem, according to the programme, to bear an almost exact relation to the level of sunspot activity.

One crucial item that was not mentioned at all was a previous scare about global warming which centred on CFC’s, used in aerosols and refrigerators. These were banned in the mid 1980’s amidst a scare that they would drift up into the upper atmosphere and degrade the ozone layer. Rather surprisingly, Margaret Thatcher, a former scientist, was a leading light in the movement to ban CFC’s. If we are, after all, experiencing man-made global warming now, it could even be the predicted legacy of CFC use.

Whatever the pros and cons of global warming theory, will the vested interests still be debating it when the oil and natural gas begins to run out? I said I am an environmentalist and the depletion of our finite resources is the inescapable environmental issue that faces us all and has been foolishly relegated to the back-burner as we get obsessed with CO2, plastic bags, disposable nappies, the congestion charge etc. etc.

My environmental mission is to keep on about how we are using up or finite resources and even if there is more oil /gas to be found, it might not come our way as China and India are needing more and more as they develop their economies. So a sustainable economy and renewable energy are still things we need to push hard.

There is also thought to be major oil reserves around the Falklands but again, the sea is so deep (1500-2000metres) that extraction would be difficult.

But even with extra oil discoveries we will run out or run low in a few decades so given that and the ‘jury-outness’ of the global warming debate it makes sense to push the renewable energy technology too.