The Future

@(f)politics? wrote:

@kent f OBE wrote:

@panda12 wrote:

@(f)politics? wrote:

who is they ?? i have seen a few personal insults thrown around this thread from all sides
like i said debate the topic not the author is the way forward

Do you mean the author of the topic as in the person who started the thread?

Well I find this confusing….is it being suggested because if me..the author of the thread…immigration was brought up?

No kenty i was saying the author of the posts not the thread, people tend to react to a particular person rather than what is actually being posted sometimes

Guilty! However, I think it, type it, then don’t tap on the enter button! :lol:

oh! I don’t mean about racism, ‘cos I am not, I mean about what I think! :oops:

Yet again, I am not going to bother explaining it! Wordsy will know it was, and it was aimed at him in a nice way btw!

@(f)politics? wrote:

@wordsworth60 wrote:

So how can discussing immigration become racist if the subject itself is not racist?
One way is by falsely selecting one or more racial group as a problem. False selection, poor use of figures, sweeping conclusions and insults cloud authentic problems.

Immigration is about people. Therefore discussing immigration is relevant to UK politics. Discussing it in a racist manner however, is not.

Regarding this highlighted point here words i wonder if you have watched the video clip pepsi has put up in the serious threads regarding immigration and the UK.
If my memory serves me the woman states clearly that the Uk recieved more numbers than was anticipated from the countries terry was referring too, so i;m not sure his ideals were entirely false or so indeed racist

At the expansion of the EU on 1 May 2004, the UK granted free movement to workers from the new member states. Most of the other European Union member states exercised their right for temporary immigration control over entrants from these accession states,although some are now removing these restrictions.This meant that UK did receive more numbers than was anticipated from Eastern Europe including Poland.
However, the following is also informative …
“Rapid economic growth at home, falling unemployment and the rising strength of the zloty have, by the autumn of 2007, reduced the economic incentive for Poles to migrate to the UK.Labour shortages in Poland’s cities and in sectors such as construction, IT and financial services have also played a part in stemming the flow of Poles to the UK. According to the August 2007 Accession Monitoring Report, fewer Poles migrated in the first half of 2007 than in the same period in 2006. Launched on 20 October 2007, a campaign by the British Polish Chamber of Commerce, ‘Wracaj do Polski’ (‘Come Back to Poland’) encourages Poles living and working in the UK to return home.
There was a baby boom during Martial Law in Poland in the early 1980s. Consequently there has been over-supply of new workers on the Polish job market in the 2000s. Unemployment rose and emigration has been a solution for many young Poles. Now that Poland’s demographic bulge is ageing, the rate of new entrants to the job market, and therefore emigration, is slowing. Some commentators say the Polish baby-boomers are returning to Poland as they reach child-rearing age themselves”

@pepsi wrote:

@(f)politics? wrote:

@wordsworth60 wrote:

So how can discussing immigration become racist if the subject itself is not racist?
One way is by falsely selecting one or more racial group as a problem. False selection, poor use of figures, sweeping conclusions and insults cloud authentic problems.

Immigration is about people. Therefore discussing immigration is relevant to UK politics. Discussing it in a racist manner however, is not.

Regarding this highlighted point here words i wonder if you have watched the video clip pepsi has put up in the serious threads regarding immigration and the UK.
If my memory serves me the woman states clearly that the Uk recieved more numbers than was anticipated from the countries terry was referring too, so i;m not sure his ideals were entirely false or so indeed racist

At the expansion of the EU on 1 May 2004, the UK granted free movement to workers from the new member states. Most of the other European Union member states exercised their right for temporary immigration control over entrants from these accession states,although some are now removing these restrictions.This meant that UK did receive more numbers than was anticipated from Eastern Europe including Poland.
However, the following is also informative …
“Rapid economic growth at home, falling unemployment and the rising strength of the zloty have, by the autumn of 2007, reduced the economic incentive for Poles to migrate to the UK.Labour shortages in Poland’s cities and in sectors such as construction, IT and financial services have also played a part in stemming the flow of Poles to the UK. According to the August 2007 Accession Monitoring Report, fewer Poles migrated in the first half of 2007 than in the same period in 2006. Launched on 20 October 2007, a campaign by the British Polish Chamber of Commerce, ‘Wracaj do Polski’ (‘Come Back to Poland’) encourages Poles living and working in the UK to return home.
There was a baby boom during Martial Law in Poland in the early 1980s. Consequently there has been over-supply of new workers on the Polish job market in the 2000s. Unemployment rose and emigration has been a solution for many young Poles. Now that Poland’s demographic bulge is ageing, the rate of new entrants to the job market, and therefore emigration, is slowing. Some commentators say the Polish baby-boom

ers are returning to Poland as they reach child-rearing age themselves”

Gonna be a big influx of French now!!