The Future

@kent f OBE wrote:

For 50 years, kids have done better than their parents….the next generation will be the first to do worse

How scarey and sad is the above statement…..so what is the solution? Of course it won’t be all the kids but I am assuming a large majority…how do we tackle teen pregnancies and kids not wanting to continue in further education?
How do we tackle the price of houses being so high? More and more kids don’t move out of the parental home…so I guess when the kids get to a certain age and the parents are older the kids must just be waiting around for the parents to pop their clogs….so that will mean they will have a house with no mortgage…will we have to wait for at least 2 generations for things to start re balancing out with a large majority of kids not having to pay for mortgages and rent for their wages to let them live comfortably and not on the bread line?
What do you think?

Lack of housing – apparently there are 729,000 empty homes in England alone: http://www.emptyhomes.com/statistics-2/ Perhaps these could be made habitable?

Teen pregnancies – a lack of education I think as well as the belief that once you have a baby, you get a council house and benefits. I think that is a direct product of the education system in this country – it is too academic focused and there is not enough emphasis on practical / vocational skills.

Not every child is blessed academically so studying academic subjects past say 13 or 14 holds no interest for them. I think as long as a child obtains a certain level of literacy and numeracy at 13 / 14 they should be able to go on and study for practical / vocational qualifications in an area that interests them and in which they would like a career. This line of study, is of course available at age 16 with further education colleges but I think by then it is too late.

@terry wrote:

@panda12 wrote:

So simplistic and naive IMHO. Ah of course, since then you’ve thrown in a few references to Gordon Brown just to mix it up a bit but your arguement in my eyes, remains incrediably simplistic and naive.

You really don’t bring anything to the debate. Apart from abuse.

Is it racist to refer to pots calling kettles black?

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@kent f OBE wrote:

Ok……..so why is it that young girls and boys are given those fake baby thingies that cry 24/7 are we still witnessing a high teenage pregnancy rate?
You know what also really frightens me….these babies are subject to being out all day/night with their mums in prams…whatever the weather…people around them smoking and drinking…the awful language…..
These babies/toddlers will grow thinking the unthinkable is normal

Kenty, would it be reassuring at all to say that I have never seen this, despite being out and about quite a lot for one reason or another. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I’m not saying it doesn’t happen a lot, but it’s by no means universal. Thare are some really great young people around not just our sprogs . . . . . . . 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Your comment regarding sensitive soul panda…
Unfortunately when discussing such things it can’t be done openly anymore for fear of being classed as a bigot, which i think is why your original post abt the whole bringing up immigrants thing was taken as it was, and many subsequent posts since where you have commented on it, have indeed come across as, people are blaming immigration for things that immigration could well have a part to play in, it has nothing to do with race at all, if they were white from france, austrailia or whereever so called white people are it is still immigration, and just cos of any past history where asians or africans or whoever have been blamed, i think the polish for example although white, are still coming here in too greater a numbers than the country can cope with and may well be playing a part.
Alot of people are sensitive to saying the wrong thing and you are and do jump on things like this often so i guess it was a conclusion that made alot of sense to come to, that you were hinting in that direction.
But if you werent??? then i apologise for thinking you were, as i read it very much the same as Mrs T did for those reasons.
Also though i do think Terry should perhaps listen to other peoples arguements rather than just throw them aside as if unworthy of the challenge or debate, that is too narrowminded, and often the downfall of our politicians too.
But being of any multi racial backgrounds doesnt give anyone the right to stem others opinions by using the race card as a battering ram either, and i felt your comment was putting that barrier there.
Maybe we are just too PC and see something remotely that way and are scared to say anymore, or indeed act defensively for fear of being thought of that way, i dunno, i’m babbling now cos i really see a divide here between people and their racial views rather than the whole point of this thread. We should debate the posts for their own merit rather than their author. Which happens too often.

@terry wrote:

@panda12 wrote:

@terry wrote:

@panda12 wrote:

So simplistic and naive IMHO. Ah of course, since then you’ve thrown in a few references to Gordon Brown just to mix it up a bit but your arguement in my eyes, remains incrediably simplistic and naive.

You really don’t bring anything to the debate. Apart from abuse.

OK Tel – where’s the abuse in that post, or any other?

It’s the abuse of privilege.

I’m not a racist despite your subliminal attempts to make me appear like one.

I’ve been subjected to racial abuse all my life. I know what it feels like. I don’t bring racism into my opinion and it’s not in my mindset.

Not calling him a racist or using the word racism or characterising him as such and yet he’s so convinced!!!

Panda, may I enrol for your “Increase Your Powers Of Suggestion” course? I could rule the bloody world from my armchair!!!!!!

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