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Could be, Gerry, could be.
I was just taking the mickey
by mentioning James Dickey.
(those are three-beat lines, btw)
(those are three-beat lines, btw)
Linda will be beating Suzanne 3 times if she carries on talking about her picnic like that.
To be honest….i just thought it was a very interesting poem. I hadn’t looked into it too deeply. There is some great stuff on JC in the arts section. I’m not saying that it is always necessarily good but never the less, the archives are full of gems.
How can you read a poem properly without looking into it deeply, Mr Q?
Looking into it deeply means looking at its rhythms.
Otherwise, it’s like listening to a song without hearing the tune.
Most poems are 4 beats or 5 beats to a line…like musical beats.
My two lines were 3 beats..
I was just taking the mickey
by mentioning James Dickey
most people can’t read poems coz they’re lookng for a story, or somethng really easy to follow.
Most poems don’t tell stories.
Most poems paint pictures with words, and they use music..
You don’t read a picture like a novel. You shouldn’t read a lot of poetry by looking for a novel, a story, in it.
Just saying…..
I think personally it’s up to the reader of the poem to interpret how they want to read it. There’s no real law, telling one how you should read poetry in my opinion. We’re all taught certain ways through the different decades and at school etc but that’s only some one else’s opinionI read some poems deeply, others not so, some poems hit me with just a verse, others the whole thing. Some poems i go back to time and time again. Some poems are great as a one off read. It all depends. This particular poem made me laugh loudly when i read it on a more superficial level. Others can make me think for weeks. All depends on my mood at the time when i read or take in a poem.
That’s the beauty of poetry.
Poetry comes to life in many different ways. What one person says one should do is not necessarily what another does as were all different. Of course there is a beat and structure to most poems but i tend to feel the mood that comes out of a poem where as others might focus on other aspects and that would change for any other poem. I don’t personally see how any one can pigeon hole every poem into a single category of…’this is how it should be looked at’. To me…every single poem has a unique quality that stands out ‘louder’ than any other due to my own unique perception. I can’t speak for any one else as i’m not them…i can only share thoughts on it….not tell people how they ought to see it. Thats just me…no disrespect intended to any one else’s view.
Here’s an example : a lot of poems get read and forgotten, thought about for, an hour, week, months even. But nearly every day, i remind me of the classic line …’ I wandered lonely as a cloud.’ I think about this one verse more than any other poem i’ve read and always look at it in new ways. I don’t remember the rest of the poem apart from this one verse which is a masterpiece in its self. Poetry to me can’t be regulated too heavily or it just gets stifled Poetry is free, a living thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry In fact, some of the earliest poems were accounts retelling stories. There are many types of poems . So one can actually look for a story in some poems as it is literally a story in the first place. I always look at poetry as…some one is expressing some thing whether it be factual or abstract and this can be complex with main and sub issues. main thing about poetry to me is…did it move me in some way or make me think? If it did, no matter how deep or shallow then it conveyed meaning.
you be wrong, mister q.
There are rules in poetry, just as there are rules in music.
They’re not fixed rules, they’re not rigid rules, but they’re what make a poem (or a song, or any other music) distinct from conversation, and they allow us to distinguish a good poem from a bad un..Even free verse, the most radical form of poetry, has its rules.
Not sure what your point is about stories being the basis of early poetry. There are some good modern poems which are narrative as well. Most poems have a story inside them – look at Mizzy’s poems – but they’re not a story.
They’re not novels. You can’t read a poem like a novel.
You seem to be looking for sentiment rather than poetry. I used to do this when I was a kid looking at the poems in Arthur Mee’s Children’s Encyclopedia. If it made me cwy, then it was a good poem.
I wandered lonely as a clod, the poem you admire so much, has been anthologised to bu**ery. The sentiment in that line is only saved from being vacuous by the closing lines of the poem. Wordsworth wrote a lot of rubbish, but look at The Prelude to see his quality.
my main point still stands. Reading a poem as you do is like listening to what a song says without paying any attention to the music. The beauty of sentiment isn’t the same as the beauty of poetry.
So there nah nah
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