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    Statistics

    Domestic abuse:

    • Will affect 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6 men in their lifetime
    • Leads to, on average, two women being murdered each week and 30 men per year
    • Accounts for 16% of all violent crime, however it is still the violent crime least likely to be reported to the police
    • Has more repeat victims than any other crime (on average there will have been 35 assaults before a victim calls the police)
    • Is the single most quoted reason for becoming homeless (Shelter, 2002)
    • In 2010 the Forced Marriage Unit responded to 1735 reports of possible Forced Marriages.

    In addition, approximately 400 people commit suicide each year who have attended hospital for domestic abuse injuries in the previous six months, 200 of these attend hospital on the day they go on to commit suicide It has been estimated that domestic abuse costs the public £23 billion per annum.  This includes the cost to the criminal justice system, to the health service, to social care and to housing.  It is widely accepted however that this figure is an under-estimate as there are so many costs that can not be measured.

    The Home Office estimates that each domestic abuse murder costs the country just over £1 million and totals £112 million per annum.

     

    • 2 women are killed every week in England and Wales by                     a current or former partner (Office of National Statistics, 2015) – 1 woman killed every 3 days
    • 1 in 4 women in England and Wales will experience domestic violence in their lifetimes and 8% will suffer domestic violence in any given year(Crime Survey of England and Wales, 2013/14)
    • Globally, 1 in 3 women will experience violence at the hands of a male partner (State of the World’s Fathers Report, MenCare, 2015)
    • Domestic violence has a higher rate of repeat victimisation than any other crime (Home Office, July 2002)
    • Every minute police in the UK receive a domestic assistance call – yet only 35% of domestic violence incidents are reported to the police (Stanko, 2000 & Home Office, 2002)
    • The 2001/02 British Crime Survey (BCS) found that there were an estimated 635,000 incidents of domestic violence in England and Wales. 81% of the victims were women and 19% were men. Domestic violence incidents also made up nearly 22% of all violent incidents reported by participants in the BCS (Home Office, July 2002).

     

     

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    #1007641

    Shocking statistics and a damning indictment of our society today, dominated by white middle aged, middle class men. Obviously equality still has a long way to go and feminism has a large part to play.

     

     

    #1007645

    I have no idea why the font went so tiny. :mail:

    I fixed this for you. The text was messed up because when you pasted the content from another site, it brought over some erroneous code. In the future, when pasting text from elsewhere, make sure the post editor is in ‘Text’ mode, not ‘Visual’ mode.

    Thanks.

    #1007662

    Statistics

    Domestic abuse:

    • Will affect 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6 men in their lifetime
    • Leads to, on average, two women being murdered each week and 30 men per year
    • Accounts for 16% of all violent crime, however it is still the violent crime least likely to be reported to the police
    • Has more repeat victims than any other crime (on average there will have been 35 assaults before a victim calls the police)
    • Is the single most quoted reason for becoming homeless (Shelter, 2002)
    • In 2010 the Forced Marriage Unit responded to 1735 reports of possible Forced Marriages.

    In addition, approximately 400 people commit suicide each year who have attended hospital for domestic abuse injuries in the previous six months, 200 of these attend hospital on the day they go on to commit suicide It has been estimated that domestic abuse costs the public £23 billion per annum. This includes the cost to the criminal justice system, to the health service, to social care and to housing. It is widely accepted however that this figure is an under-estimate as there are so many costs that can not be measured. The Home Office estimates that each domestic abuse murder costs the country just over £1 million and totals £112 million per annum.

    • 2 women are killed every week in England and Wales by a current or former partner (Office of National Statistics, 2015) – 1 woman killed every 3 days
    • 1 in 4 women in England and Wales will experience domestic violence in their lifetimes and 8% will suffer domestic violence in any given year(Crime Survey of England and Wales, 2013/14)
    • Globally, 1 in 3 women will experience violence at the hands of a male partner (State of the World’s Fathers Report, MenCare, 2015)
    • Domestic violence has a higher rate of repeat victimisation than any other crime (Home Office, July 2002)
    • Every minute police in the UK receive a domestic assistance call – yet only 35% of domestic violence incidents are reported to the police (Stanko, 2000 & Home Office, 2002)
    • The 2001/02 British Crime Survey (BCS) found that there were an estimated 635,000 incidents of domestic violence in England and Wales. 81% of the victims were women and 19% were men. Domestic violence incidents also made up nearly 22% of all violent incidents reported by participants in the BCS (Home Office, July 2002).

    many thanks for the stats, angle.

    Pretty shocking, but I had heard some of them already.

    #1007665

    Minimum wage. Sick pay. Holiday pay. The NHS. ccess to the House of Lords. A Equality (men and women) in same sex relationships. Access to the legal system. Bank accounts. Pension rights. Mortgage rights. Birth control.

    What do any of these things have to do with femminism?

    Maternity leave.

    If femminism is for equality, then why is paternity leave significantly worse than materinity leave.

    Divorce rights.

    Heavily favours women, especially if children are involved. I see no equality here.

    Female MP’s

    Many of the femminist MPs are supremacists (Jess Philips). Other than that I don’t really care what gender MPs are as long as they are good at their job, not that any of them are.

    Abortion.

    I have shifted more towards pro-life views since having children, so I would disagree with this depending on specifics.

    Equal pay.

    I’m not aware of a time when there was ever a real pay gap, if you have evidence of this then I would like to see it.

    Voting rights.

    Women were banned from voting in Britain in 1832, before this only land owners could vote (which includes women). I don’t think there were any femminists before the 1830s. They were given the right to vote again in 1918 after WW1 finished, unless feminists ended WW1, they are not directly responisble for this. In america women have automatic voting rights, men have to register for the draft before they are allowed to vote, so again there is not equality here (favouring women).

    Here in the UK, where ideological austerity is disproportionately targeting women and children.

    Extrordinary claims need extrordinary evidence.

    For example women in violent relationships had to prove those relationships are violent, before they could access full legal aid. This has now been overturned by the Court of Appeal. Just another example though how women are still treated like second class citizens. “The Court of Appeal has today (18 February 2016) ruled that evidence requirements which have been operating to prevent survivors of domestic abuse from getting legal aid for family cases are unlawful.”

    I’m not really sure about this one, but legal aid for this even avalible to men? Cases that include women being violent against men are laughed out of court most of the time if they even make it there. Also, I hate the term survivor, just call them victims no need for such emotive language.

    “Women are bearing the brunt of the government’s austerity drive in the public sector, according to figures showing that twice as many women as men have lost jobs in local government since 2010.”

    I haven’t read through the source you provided yet, but does it actually explain why this is happening? Maybe women are more represented in jobs like cleaning that are easier to cut?

    Drac,

    I’ll think abut these and give my opinion in response to your srguments.

    I like the fact that you do have an opinion, and that you think about it, rather than just copy from another site and try to appear ever so clever.

    #1007710

    Statistics

    Domestic abuse:

    • Will affect 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6 men in their lifetime
    • Leads to, on average, two women being murdered each week and 30 men per year
    • Accounts for 16% of all violent crime, however it is still the violent crime least likely to be reported to the police
    • Has more repeat victims than any other crime (on average there will have been 35 assaults before a victim calls the police)
    • Is the single most quoted reason for becoming homeless (Shelter, 2002)
    • In 2010 the Forced Marriage Unit responded to 1735 reports of possible Forced Marriages.

    In addition, approximately 400 people commit suicide each year who have attended hospital for domestic abuse injuries in the previous six months, 200 of these attend hospital on the day they go on to commit suicide It has been estimated that domestic abuse costs the public £23 billion per annum. This includes the cost to the criminal justice system, to the health service, to social care and to housing. It is widely accepted however that this figure is an under-estimate as there are so many costs that can not be measured. The Home Office estimates that each domestic abuse murder costs the country just over £1 million and totals £112 million per annum.

    • 2 women are killed every week in England and Wales by a current or former partner (Office of National Statistics, 2015) – 1 woman killed every 3 days
    • 1 in 4 women in England and Wales will experience domestic violence in their lifetimes and 8% will suffer domestic violence in any given year(Crime Survey of England and Wales, 2013/14)
    • Globally, 1 in 3 women will experience violence at the hands of a male partner (State of the World’s Fathers Report, MenCare, 2015)
    • Domestic violence has a higher rate of repeat victimisation than any other crime (Home Office, July 2002)
    • Every minute police in the UK receive a domestic assistance call – yet only 35% of domestic violence incidents are reported to the police (Stanko, 2000 & Home Office, 2002)
    • The 2001/02 British Crime Survey (BCS) found that there were an estimated 635,000 incidents of domestic violence in England and Wales. 81% of the victims were women and 19% were men. Domestic violence incidents also made up nearly 22% of all violent incidents reported by participants in the BCS (Home Office, July 2002).

    many thanks for the stats, angle. Pretty shocking, but I had heard some of them already.

    What is shocking is seeing the stats face to face

    and having to deal with aftermath as best you can

     

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    #1007861

    I always look at stats like this with some sceptisicsm, you don’t know how many abuses go unreported. I would imagine this is especially true with male victims, talking about such things isn’t a very manly thing to do. And for women, I have spoken to plenty of women in unhealthy relationships who seem to exhibit similar behaviours to Stockholm Syndrome, I don’t think they would report it if the relationship became violent. There is also the issue of false accusations of abuse, given that ‘innocent unti proven guilty’ doesn’t seem to apply, at least when sexual abuse is also alleged.

    Another issue that I am aware of is that most domestic shelters don’t accept male victims, and the very few male only shelters are refused public funding. I will try and find a source for this, but I am certain it is true.

    #1007868

    Drac, I’ll think abut these and give my opinion in response to your srguments. I like the fact that you do have an opinion, and that you think about it, rather than just copy from another site and try to appear ever so clever.

    I had to look up the history of women’s voting rights to be honest, it’s something I am uninformed about. Although I was aware of the selective service issue in the US.

    #1008045

    I always look at stats like this with some sceptisicsm, you don’t know how many abuses go unreported. I would imagine this is especially true with male victims, talking about such things isn’t a very manly thing to do. And for women, I have spoken to plenty of women in unhealthy relationships who seem to exhibit similar behaviours to Stockholm Syndrome, I don’t think they would report it if the relationship became violent. There is also the issue of false accusations of abuse, given that ‘innocent unti proven guilty’ doesn’t seem to apply, at least when sexual abuse is also alleged. Another issue that I am aware of is that most domestic shelters don’t accept male victims, and the very few male only shelters are refused public funding. I will try and find a source for this, but I am certain it is true.

    yes, I agree with drac here. I heard of one case where a woman in a violent relationship was turned away from a Women’s Refuge in Edinburgh because her toddler was male. That is only hearsay, but the person who told me was from Edinburgh and reliable. Having said that, feminist anti-rape centres and refuges have played an invaluable role in saving women fomr horror-shows. Men aren’t allowed ink, but they dont even think of applying because of the shame of revealing the abuse suffered by them.

    As far as your response to the list of facts, again you’re right to say that most of them had precious little if anything to do with feminism.

    But you go too far. You make factual errors yourself. The Equal Pay Act in 1975 was supposed to end the awful situation where women were paid less for doing the same work. The evidence was there and can easily be googled – if you like I can try to find the stats from my personal library, but they’re buried deep and may take too much work. There is still unequal pay, but employers have to be creative with the law to get away with it. The granting of the right to vote in the UK came after feminist groups held major rallies in support of war in 1914-18 and women played a major role in the war effort – it was felt that women had earned the right to vote (m,y favourite feminists, like Sylvia pankhurst, campaigned against the war). The Suffragettes did take part in direct action, but this hardly makes them terrorirsts – the only fatality was a woman who ran in fromt of the King’s horse in the Derby in the foolish belief that the horse would stop (did she not know that Blonde had placed a bet on the horse??).

    Abortion is a mjor advance which was not the result of feminism – you may be pro-Life, and I also think abortion is horrible (most women who have had them think so too), but if you took away abortion rights, the result would be to push women back to the fly-by-night operators who performed abortions in the back streets – the result was quite frequently death for the woman as well due to botched surgery and a lack of the safety conditions now present.

    The msot important thing about feminism is not tangible. It’s the fact that the demands for equality in the personal sphere, however silly they could be advoated at times, have created an atmosphere where women won’t be pushed around or made silent about things like rape and serious harassment, and where women have found that they can be just as good, if not better, than men in education and the professions.

    So there… :mail:

     

    #1008090

    You make factual errors yourself. The Equal Pay Act in 1975 was supposed to end the awful situation where women were paid less for doing the same work. The evidence was there and can easily be googled – if you like I can try to find the stats from my personal library, but they’re buried deep and may take too much work. There is still unequal pay, but employers have to be creative with the law to get away with it. 

    I might be wrong about how things used to be, it was before I was born. But I don’t believe that unequal pay is still a widespread problem, all the data I have seen suggests otherwise, as well as my own personal experience.

    Abortion is a mjor advance which was not the result of feminism – you may be pro-Life, and I also think abortion is horrible (most women who have had them think so too), but if you took away abortion rights, the result would be to push women back to the fly-by-night operators who performed abortions in the back streets – the result was quite frequently death for the woman as well due to botched surgery and a lack of the safety conditions now present.

    The right to abortion, at least late stage abortions is a right to end another human’s life at best to protect the life of another and at worst for Convenience. I feel this is a dangerous precident to set.

    The msot important thing about feminism is not tangible. It’s the fact that the demands for equality in the personal sphere, however silly they could be advoated at times, have created an atmosphere where women won’t be pushed around or made silent about things like rape and serious harassment, and where women have found that they can be just as good, if not better, than men in education and the professions. So there… :mail:

    I don’t understand this argument at all. I’m as good as men at my job because of my own skill, not because of femminism.

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