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If the overtly Scottish and decidedly unappealing Gordon Brown becomes leader of New Labour I reckon it will damage their chances at the next election. Blair is Scottish too, but not obviously so, and his predecessor the Late Joihn Smith was Scottish. The Lib Dems’ Menzies Campbell and his predecessor Charles Kennedy are also Scottish.
I’m not anti-Scottish but we not seeing over-representation of Scots in government at present?
A non English person, cannot have access to all the qualifications needed to be the England manager.
A non English person doesnt feel the same passion for England, like a brazillian wouldnt feel the same for argentina, north korean for their southern neighbours etc.
I remember tony banks asking phony blair in parliament, what his delight would be like if England “led us to victory in the world cup” years ago, phony said, it would be good for the country if THEY win…
He isnt English, he hasnt got passion for Englishness, he has never and never will be a true leader for England.
A TRUE English person would in these modern times, make St George’s day a bank holiday by now.
@emmalush wrote:
A non English person, cannot have access to all the qualifications needed to be the England manager.
A non English person doesnt feel the same passion for England, like a brazillian wouldnt feel the same for argentina, north korean for their southern neighbours etc.
I remember tony banks asking phony blair in parliament, what his delight would be like if England “led us to victory in the world cup” years ago, phony said, it would be good for the country if THEY win…
He isnt English, he hasnt got passion for Englishness, he has never and never will be a true leader for England.
A TRUE English person would in these modern times, make St George’s day a bank holiday by now.
Absolute cra/p- half the England team that won the Ashes last year weren’t born here and two of them were at one point South African and they didnt lack passion or desire
@slayer wrote:
Absolute cra/p- half the England team that won the Ashes last year weren’t born here and two of them were at one point South African and they didnt lack passion or desire
Slayer, forget your anti-emmalush stance for one moment, do you HONESTLY feel that those foreigners who helped England win the ashes, did it cos they felt a passion for the English and England?
I have no idea whether they did it because of their passion for England and the English but that doesn’t bother me at all- they played their part (often essential part) in a team that won a momentous cricket test match series- I have aboslutely no reason to doubt their desire and committment to the cause
if Arsenal win on Wednesday night, there won’t be many Gooners (or football fans in general) who will be too bothered that 90% of the team isn’t English.
If we win the world cup- does it matter that the manager isn’t English?
Anyway I was mainly supportive on this thread and Im not “anti” you, Im only against the things you say that I don’t agree with- as a person I have no idea what you are like as we’ve never met!
I think the only answer to the Midlothian Question is an English Parliament with similar powers to the Scottish Assembly. Perhaps held in an ancient capitol like Winchester. Combined with a hike in the powers of the Welsh and Northern Irish parish councils the UK Parliament could then be left to officiate solely on UK matters.
Regional parliaments, though, like the one offered to the north east, I can only see as being a complete waste of time. They would serve only to simultaneously devalue the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish assemblies while offering nothing new to the English except another tier of local government.
@slayer wrote:
I have no idea whether they did it because of their passion for England
Do you then think that if they did have passion for the English and England like the English would, that you would feel it?
if Arsenal win on Wednesday night, there won’t be many Gooners (or football fans in general) who will be too bothered that 90% of the team isn’t English.
Thats because footballing communities have drifted from a collective community to one where only the club is the concern, not the people.
That said, English gooners would im sure prefer English arsenal players.If we win the world cup- does it matter that the manager isn’t English?
For me it does, i want everyone connected to be English, else it will mean we couldnt win on our own. Then again, what influence does sven give :wink:
The Scottish Parliament is limited in it’s powers. It’s not as if every single Scottish matter is decided in Edinburgh, and every English matter is decided at Westminster.
The Westminster parliament decides lots of matters that affect Scots as well. If Westminster only decided matters that affected England, then yeah a Scottish Prime Minister would be a silly choice, but clearly it dosent only decide matters that affect England.Westminster decides whats what in all the regions of the UK, not just England Emma, it makes the laws that everyone has to follow, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have to follow English law. I know Scotland has some of its own laws, but so what, don’t mean the Scottish, Welsh or Irish cant become Prime ministers as they are all still BRITISH CITIZENS
Having sounded off above about the over-representation of Scots in the government of Britain, I hasten to add that I do not subscribe to the notions or Englishness, Scottishness or Welshness as happily as I do to that of Britishness for all of us.
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