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Oops, and sorry, failed to mention the comments of GE, too
Ruthless..U put up a tread I too will read it. If has interest or not, will give my opinion as well…
oh, ge, when did I post a date of economic armageddon?? Or move the date when it was going to happen???
From my memory, I’ve said continually that the UK will not collapse as an economy once Brexit occurs; but that we will all be poorer.
As Brexit hasn’t yet occurred, I’ve not used any economic stats to urge one case or another. I merely note the steep fall in sterling on Brexit news, and the rise in inflation which is starting to take place. We have to wait for Brexit itself (whenever that is – it doesn’t look likely in any meaningful sense in 2019) to see what happens., and even then it’s going to be several years before we can say that it was a genuinely bad move (though i think it will be).
I’ve said before in answer to your attacks that I’m not a school teacher, and have never taught kids in my life. The reason is simple – I am really not good enough for that job.
This is about whether Mrs May may or may not be keeping ehr job for long, and the jury is out. All I know is that things don’t look great; and that there’s no clear majority for any direct move forward. Drac wants a form of EFTA – no majority for that. Drac has previously supported a hard Brexit (she’ll correct me if I misunderstood her, I’m sure) – no majority for that. Corbyn wants a Single market and Customs Union while leaving the EU – good luck on that one. I want us to invoke Article 49 – getting back into the EU – no majority for that.
Things had better get a move on, right?
Oops, and sorry, failed to mention the comments of GE, too Ruthless.. U put up a tread I too will read it. If has interest or not, will give my opinion as well…
I think you meant me didn’t you. Ruthless said nothing.
Ge,
Ruthless made comments regarding all of yours made in this area…everyone’s…
I merely was trying to point out that these are opinions, thoughts and ideas..
He implied on his/her’s first response that me seemed…made a remark toward that.
My reply simply was how I read it, felt it, took away from it.
As I read your thoughts too I named the others in my response, failed to mention I read your’s as well.
My comment was no disrespect or being rude, to Ruthless or any of u, what I felt he was implying..about me liking….
I think Linda meant you, as well, Gerry.
Linda, I found your response particularly heartening.
You know that this is not a high-flown discussion fought between ‘experts’ who are very good at disguising their (lack of ) ideas behind a cloud of hard words, but you’re taking it seriously.
Unlike a couple of others, you realise that this is a serious discussion about public affairs. That means affairs which concern us all, ‘experts’ and non-experts. An attempt to understand something which needs to be understood. people who want us to shut up are doing democracy no service. Democracy is about discussions like this, conducted by people who aren’t ‘experts’ but who rely on newspapers and the web, and who look to discussion to sharpen their ideas.
Your comments will be valued in the same way as anyone else’s comments, Linda. They’ll also be subjected to the same critical scrutiny.
Like any serious comments, they’ll be very welcome.
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oh, ge, when did I post a date of economic armageddon?? Or move the date when it was going to happen??? From my memory, I’ve said continually that the UK will not collapse as an economy once Brexit occurs; but that we will all be poorer. As Brexit hasn’t yet occurred, I’ve not used any economic stats to urge one case or another. I merely note the steep fall in sterling on Brexit news, and the rise in inflation which is starting to take place. We have to wait for Brexit itself (whenever that is – it doesn’t look likely in any meaningful sense in 2019) to see what happens., and even then it’s going to be several years before we can say that it was a genuinely bad move (though i think it will be). I’ve said before in answer to your attacks that I’m not a school teacher, and have never taught kids in my life. The reason is simple – I am really not good enough for that job. This is about whether Mrs May may or may not be keeping ehr job for long, and the jury is out. All I know is that things don’t look great; and that there’s no clear majority for any direct move forward. Drac wants a form of EFTA – no majority for that. Drac has previously supported a hard Brexit (she’ll correct me if I misunderstood her, I’m sure) – no majority for that. Corbyn wants a Single market and Customs Union while leaving the EU – good luck on that one. I want us to invoke Article 49 – getting back into the EU – no majority for that. Things had better get a move on, right?
You were quibbling about the definition of neoliberlism. Which is totally irrelevant and the other issues have been covered on other threads.
The pound was overvalued, the IMF made that clear before the referendum in 2015, between 5-20%, by the time of Brexit 5-25%. Brexit caused speculative funds invested in the property sector to drop sharply and that is what caused that overvalued pound to depreciate. The housing/property bubble created an over valued pound. Not even getting into QE etc.
There is no connection between the interest rate hike and Brexit unless it is a political decision by the pro EU governor. The BOE kept interest rates artificially low and it was supposed to be a short term fix after the banking crisis in 2007/8.
I could type 10,000 words why EU membership has created a two tier economy across Europe but you would still not budge an inch. Long term a hi tech manufacturing based economy will be far better for the UK economy than an economy based on a banking led, service sector, low productivity economy fueled by housing bubbles and the inevitable financial crashes.
Ge, Ruthless made comments regarding all of yours made in this area…everyone’s… I merely was trying to point out that these are opinions, thoughts and ideas.. He implied on his/her’s first response that me seemed…made a remark toward that. My reply simply was how I read it, felt it, took away from it. As I read your thoughts too I named the others in my response, failed to mention I read your’s as well. My comment was no disrespect or being rude, to Ruthless or any of u, what I felt he was implying..about me liking….
Ruthless doesn’t say anything Linda about the topic. The people who do are willing to be shot down and agree or disagree about their/our thoughts, that has to be respected.
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Ge.
Well, ge, you were calling the EU a neo-liberal cartel and there were several comments on this. mine was the argument that ‘neo-liberalism’ is a meaningless idea. Hardly quibbling when you had introduced it.
I can argue about the pound, and about the role of manufacturing in a future UK economy. I disagree very much with you on both these issues. But they deserve different threads – especially the manufacturing comment, whihc would require a thread on why i think Corbyn’s strategy is not a good one.
I do know that we can’t help but touch on a lot of these issues, though, so I wouldnh’t call any of it quibbling.
My comments were satirical, the end of March ( April fools is the day after). Women 0.5 votes and so on. Pets, meh.
Realistically, the money will decide the vote not Z list “Jimmy Choos” May.
Linda are you on twitter? I`d be curious if you can manage your thoughts succinctly.
As for the rest of us, in the UK. I think its all a bit of a hatchet job where the common media are reporting on minor sexual offences from decades ago.
” We live in times”
Ruthless,
Not sure what ur issues are regarding me, however ur insults as usual with me always, are rude and unjust..please find some one else to insult, leave me alone..perhaps find few hobbies to keep u entertained.
Thank you….
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